A beauty podcast from mindbodygreen, the leading brand in health and well-being. Hosted by mbg’s beauty director, Alexandra Engler, Clean Beauty School explores the intimate and intricate relationship between beauty and wellness, including physical, mental, environmental, and spiritual health. Through this series, we’ll dive into the science and soul of beauty’s most pressing topics.
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57: Hair removal mistakes, ingrowns & crepey skin | Board-certified dermatologist Tiffany Clay, M.D.
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“You can have healthy, clear, beautiful skin and it's not by using a ton of products,” says board-certified dermatologist Tiffany Clay, M.D. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host & mindbodygreens beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Clay about all things body care—just in time for the warmer weather. A few of the hot topics discussed:…
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56: Heat styling mistakes & fixes | Sandra Lup, engineering manager of hair care at Dyson
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“Hair styling is such a personal experience—we’ve talked with users around the world and they express the confidence they get from styling their hair,” says Sandra Lup, the engineering manager of hair care at Dyson. “Some say they don’t even step outside the house without styling.” In this episode of mindbodygreen’s beauty podcast Clean Beauty Scho…
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55: Making clean beauty more accessible | Brook Harvey Taylor, founder of Pacifica Beauty
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“Beauty is about taking care of you,” says Brook Harvey Taylor, founder of Pacifica Beauty. In This episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen’s beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Harvey Taylor about the difference between cruelty-free and vegan, sustainable packaging, why the younger generation will lead us in the right direct…
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54: Debunking sustainability myths | sk*p founder Mark Veeder
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“It’s about passion, not perfection. If you you hold too high of a standard, people get turned off and think, Well I’m just one person,” says Mark Veeder, avid gardener, brand founder of sk*p beauty, and member of the Conscious Beauty at Ulta Beauty Advisory council. In this special episode about sustainability, we talk about packaging innovations,…
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53: How to treat rosacea naturally | board-certified dermatologist Estee Williams, M.D.
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“To care for the skin, you need to treat a person’s entire spectrum of needs,” says board-certified dermatologist Estee Williams, M.D. And nowhere is that more evident than when treating skin conditions and diseases, like rosacea. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Williams abo…
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52: Why do we love French beauty? | Alex Chantecaille, VP at Chantecaille Beauté
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“For me, beauty has always been the feeling of being cared for. Those early memories of beauty were like a warm hug from grandma after a long, luxurious bath. As I got older, it was about playing with these beautiful things and makeup," says Alex Chantecaille, VP at Chantecaille Beauté. “It’s that balance between cared and health, but also this joy…
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51: What is prejuvenation? | board-certified dermatologist Ava Shamban, M.D.
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“Beauty is not frivolous — it is a vital part of well-being. So when you look at yourself and you look good, you feel better,” says board certified dermatologist Ava Shamban, M.D. In this episode of mindbodygreen’s beauty podcast Clean Beauty School, host and beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Shamban about in-office treatments, how you ca…
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50: Distorted beauty views & your mental health | Psychologist Chloe Carmichael, Ph.D.
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“When practicing beauty routines, ask yourself: Is this really for me? Or is it coming from a negative space in which you feel you need to ‘fix’ yourself?,” says psychologist Chloe Carmichael, Ph.D. In this episode of Clean Beauty School,mbg beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Dr. Chloe about the beauty and mental health connection…
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49: The oral health & beauty connection | biologic restorative dentist Gerry Curatola, D.D.S.
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“They say that the eyes are the window to the soul. And I say that the smile is a window to the spirit. When you let out your joyful spirit and smile, people respond,” says biologic restorative dentist Gerry Curatola, D.D.S. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen’s beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Curatola about t…
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48: Skin care snacks, peptides & staying hydrated | celebrity esthetician Natalie Aguilar
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“A healthy skin routine is no different than a healthy lifestyle—they’re both meant to be practiced every day,” says celebrity esthetician and dermatological nurse Natalie Aguilar. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host and mindbodygreen beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Aguilar about why it’s important to find your “skin care perso…
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47: What is your scalp trying to tell you? | Trichologist Bridgette Hill
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“There are so many beauty products to try, but ultimately you cannot avoid addressing your health,” says hair stylist, colorist, and trichologist Bridgette Hill, noting that the scalp and hair can be a key indicator for what’s happening internally. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats…
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46: How to actually use a microcurrent tool | skin care specialist Pooja Johari, M.S.
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“Microcurrent is a very tiny electrical current that mimics your body’s own natural pulses. What that means is our brains use currents to communicate through our neurological pathways, where it’s constantly sending signals. What we're doing with this technology is mimicking those currents and delivering them to our facial muscles,” says biomedical …
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45: Can beauty be part of your self-love journey? | esthetician, hair stylist, MUA Tiffany Lee
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“If you use them as tools for creativity, makeup, skincare, haircare, and wellness are all an act of love and self-care,” says beauty triple threat Tiffany Lee, who is a licensed esthetician, hair stylist, and makeup artist. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host and mbg beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Lee about her self-love jour…
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44: How to catch the light & master concealer | Beauty vet Bobbi Brown
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“The more you realize that you are you, the more beautiful you become,” says Bobbi Brown, the iconic makeup artist, beauty industry vet, and founder of Jones Road. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mbg beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Brown about her game-changing career, how the industry has changed over the years, her we…
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43: Herbs for glowing skin & hair growth | Herbalist Rachelle Robinett
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“Beauty is about us being as wholly ourselves as we can be. And in order to do that, there's a degree of being connected internally and externally" says herbalist and founder of Supernatural Rachelle Robinett. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Robinett about how plants can fue…
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42: Why is everyone breaking out right now? | holistic esthetician Zaida Gordon
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“You should find rituals that make you love taking care of your skin,” says holistic esthetician and acne specialist Zaida Gordon, founder of the acne clinic SkintegrityLA. “In my own personal routine, I do everything I recommend to my patients.” In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mbg beauty director & host Alexandra Engler chats with Gordon a…
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41: How to get glowing skin for 7+ decades | Designer & wellness expert Norma Kamali
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“I want to age with power,” says designer, author, and icon Norma Kamali. The wellness and beauty expert joins mbg beauty director Alexandra Engler in this episode of Clean Beauty School. In it, Engler and Kamali discuss how people can embrace their age, why she’s obsessed with olive oil, and why you’re most beautiful when you’re sweating. Plus, sh…
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40: All-time great product recs for the new year | special guest cohost Jamie Schneider, mbg associate editor
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In this special episode of Clean Beauty School, mbg associate beauty editor Jamie Schneider joins me as special guest host to talk about our new personal care line, product recs, and our 2022 new years goals. A must listen! Show notes: -Check out Jamie’s work on mindbodygreen. -Learn more about our postbiotic body lotion & hand cream. -Read about t…
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39: How to achieve your skin care goals | Wellness & beauty expert Tatiana Boncompagni
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“People who run marathons, write novels, start companies, they put their leggings on one leg at a time just like everyone else—you are more capable than you think you are,” says wellness, health, and beauty journalist and expert Tatiana Boncompagni, the founder of the organic meal delivery service Eat Sunny. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, …
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38: What treatments & ingredients are overrated? | celebrity esthetician Aida Bicaj
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“You cannot stop your skin from aging—but what about aging gracefully?” asks celebrity esthetician Aida Bicaj. “I am 57, and I cannot look 35—nor do I want to try to—but I can look 5 years younger, because I’ve been paying attention to my skin from an early age.” In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host and beauty director Alexandra Engler chat…
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37: How to simplify your makeup routine | Clean makeup artist Alexandria Gilleo
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“We don’t need to over-complicate beauty. It can be something that we just do for fun," says global makeup artist and wellness influencer Alexandria Gilleo. In this episode of mindbodygreen's Clean Beauty School, beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Gilleo about how she preps skin for an effortless makeup application, easy holiday g…
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36: Should you practice yoga with your face? | Fumiko Takatsu, founder of the Face Yoga Method
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"When I turned 30, I started buying expensive creams and started getting facials. And I felt almost like I was giving up my power over my own skin care, and I had to have somebody to do something for me. I didn't like the feeling—and wanted to take the control back," says skin care expert Fumiko Takatsu, founder of the Face Yoga Method. In this epi…
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35: Mastering a 5-minute face | actress, model, influencer & founder of maed Denise Vasi
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“I’ve learned to take off that ‘hustler’ badge and instead value rest—it’s so important to listen to your body,” says actress, model, influencer, mom & founder of maed Denise Vasi. This true multi-hyphenate knows what it means to be busy, but she also knows how vital it is to care for yourself in meaningful ways. In this episode of Clean Beauty Sch…
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34: What we’re getting wrong about mainstream skin care | triple-board certified dermatologist Mamina Turegano, M.D.
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“I always try to emphasize to my patients that most of this skin care stuff is optional—don’t feel like you have to do all of these things to meet whatever standards of beauty are out there. The ultimate goal is only for you to feel comfortable in your own skin,” says triple-board certified dermatologist Mamina Turegano, M.D. In this episode of Cle…
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33: Facial lymph care, massage techniques & topicals | holistic esthetician Britta Plug
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“[When you do facial and neck lymph massage work] that’s where you can access the vagus nerve, which brings our body into parasympathetic states. So when we do this, we're talking about beauty, sculpting, clearing, brightening, and having that glow—but we’re also affecting our entire body,” says holistic esthetician and mbg collective member Britta…
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32: How to own your power & beauty | iconic model, actress & writer Veronica Webb
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“I think it's really important for women to say their age, to be proud of their age, and to think of their age as an accomplishment,” says model, actress, writer, and beauty icon Veronica Webb. “It should be celebrated rather than something to be apologized for or hidden.” In this episode of Clean Beauty School, beauty director and host Alexandra E…
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31: What causes gray hair, coloring tips & transitioning to silver | Hair stylist & colorist Christin Brown
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"You have the power to pick what serves you, and what no longer serves you," says hair stylist & colorist Christin Brown—and that includes hair color, we might add. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host and mindbodygreen's beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Brown about transitioning to silver hair, how to color it (if you choose), p…
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30: Eat your way to great skin | gut health expert Kellyann Petrucci, MS, ND
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"Beautiful skin always starts with the gut," says Kellyann Petrucci, M.S., N.D. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host & beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Petrucci about the science behind the gut-skin connection, how inflammation harms the skin, and what you can eat for a glowing, youthful complexion. Show notes: -Follow Kellyann P…
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29: The best hair hacks we’ve ever heard | Hairstylist Matt Newman
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“Your beauty can grow, evolve, change, and take inspiration—but it’s got to come from you," says hairstylist Matt Newman, who has become one of TikTok's favorite hair experts and viral trend tester. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host and beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Newman about his best styling tips, finding your personal …
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28: How to uncomplicate your skin care routine | dermatologist Kavita Mariwalla, M.D.
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“My skin care philosophy is about meeting the person where they are at that point in their life; What you can do as a 25-year-old and what you can do as a 30-year-old with a newborn are very different things,” says board certified dermatologist Kavita Mariwalla, M.D. “It’s not about if you theoretically should use a 10-step routine, because if you …
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27: How fascia affects the skin & how to care for it | Shalini Bhat DC, IFMCP, CFMP
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“When our fascia and tissue is healthy, it is very resilient,” says fascia and lymph expert Shalini Bhat DC, IFMCP, CFMP, In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host and mindbodygreen beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Bhat about the deep intricacies of our fascia, the ways in which it affects our skin, how to identify unhealthy fascia, a…
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26: A supermodel’s best beauty tips | Sports Illustrated & Victoria Secret model Emily DiDonato
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“If you had asked me 10 years ago, if I thought that I was healthy, I would have told you 100%. Now looking back, I know that I was very much not healthy. But that was when health and wellness was totally all about the way it made me look—and had nothing to do with how I felt,” says supermodel Emily DiDonato. In this episode of Clean Beauty School,…
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25: How to actually help damaged hair | Curly hair expert Sunny
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"You really just have to build a relationship with your hair and listen to it. Learn what your hair needs and give it to yourself," says curly hair expert Sunny, founder of the wellness and hair salon Lumiere Vive. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host & beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Sunny about bringing curls back to life, the…
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24: Why we all love to connect over beauty tips | Brooke DeVard Ozaydinli, host of the Naked Beauty Podcast
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“Beauty seems surface level, but it’s something that once you start talking about you can get really deep on. If someone talks to me about a breakout on their skin, usually we end up talking about something that’s going on in their personal life. So it becomes this thing you can really build relationships around,” says Brooke DeVard Ozaydinli, host…
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23: Can beauty supplements actually do anything? | mbg director of scientific affairs Ashley Jordan Ferira, Ph.D., R.D.
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“Like your stomach is not just a tube, your skin is not just a covering. Just because your skin is literally placed superficially, doesn’t mean you can treat it superficially,” says mbg director of scientific affairs Ashley Jordan Ferira, Ph.D., R.D. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, she chats with mbg beauty director Alexandra Engler all abo…
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22: Why are we so attached to our hair? | McKenna Reitz, TedX speaker with alopecia universalis
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“Now I can finally walk past a mirror, stop, look at myself, and say, ‘I am enough. I am worth it.’ As women, that is sometimes the most difficult thing for us to be able to do. You have to repeat it and repeat it and repeat it until you finally believe it,” says teacher and TedX speaker McKenna Reitz, who has alopecia universalis. For Alopecia Awa…
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21: Dos & don’ts of sustainable beauty | Kristy Drutman, founder of Brown Girl Green
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“I feel like the beauty industry is failing society by not taking advantage of the opportunity to exhibit really strong leadership in this space. They should be leaders into a world where people can feel the best about themselves—not just for what they're putting on their skin, but the impact that they're making on the environment,” says eco-justic…
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20: Why is the EU so much better at beauty regulation? | Melanie Benesh, legislative attorney at the EWG
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“The EU follows the precautionary principle, which means that they are not going to let a chemical onto the market until they have received a certain amount of data that it's safe. In the U.S. it's the reverse—so we have more of a philosophy that we assume something is safe until proven otherwise,” says Melanie Benesh, legislative attorney with the…
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19: Are you sabotaging your beauty? | Joy strategist Erica Lasan
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“What actually makes you most beautiful is embracing what feels good. I find that the more work you have to put into trying to be something, it sucks the joy out of what it is that you're doing,” says joy expert Erica Lasan. “Especially being a black woman, my journey to beauty has really been a journey to self-love and acceptance.” In this episode…
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18: A supermodel’s wellness & beauty must-haves | Sports Illustrated cover model Kate Bock
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“Eating clean really guides my whole self for the day, for the week, for the month. It’s the thing that really runs my life. Eating is really the primary source of energy, skin clarity, and feeling good in my body and self,” says supermodel and Sports Illustrated cover star Kate Bock. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host and mindbodygreen’s…
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17: Can you heal your skin through spirituality? | healer Deborah Hanekamp (Mama Medicine)
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“There are some rituals that are universal to the human experience. Many of these fall in the intersection of where beauty rituals meet spirituality: In these we're purifying our spirits, but we're also cleansing our skins,” says healer Deborah Hanekamp, (or, Mama Medicine). In this episode of mindbodygreen's beauty podcast Clean Beauty School, hos…
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16: What even is holistic plastic surgery? | board-certified plastic surgeon Anthony Youn, M.D.
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“Holistic plastic surgery is the idea that in plastic surgery, you look at the body as a whole picture—and you want to start with the basics. And the basics aren't Botox or facelift or breast implants. The basics are lifestyle, nutrition, exercise, and reducing the environmental toxins that you're exposed to,” says board-certified plastic surgeon A…
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15: Can natural ingredients be as effective as filler & botox? | dermatologist Macrene Alexiades, M.D., Ph.D., FAAD
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“If you use natural and organic ingredients in your skincare, or even in your diet, you will in the long run, look better, healthier, and more beautiful than those who go for the quick fixes. Quick fixes and aggressive treatments may look good for a night, a week, or even a month or two. But If overused, they can damage the skin. And as the months …
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14: The ultimate guasha episode | Debbie Kung, DAOM, LAc
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“Guasha has been around for centuries, and in the East is seen as folk and family medicine—something that is passed down from generation to generation. And the reason it's been around for so long, and it's still around, is because it works,” says skin care expert Debbie Kung, DAOM, LAc. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen’s beauty…
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13: What we’re getting wrong about sunscreen | George Zaidan, science writer
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“If the only advice you’re saying to someone is to wear sunscreen and ignore the rest, that might be a little problematic,” says science journalist George Zaidan. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, beauty director Alexandra Engler and Zaidan discuss the many misconceptions we have about sunscreen, what your SPF labels truly mean, and how real …
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12: Your skin on stress | Dermatologist & psychiatrist Amy Wechsler, M.D.
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“When a patient comes in, I sit down with them and ask all about their stress, sleep, relationships, work, exercise, and sex lives. Usually they’ll be confused and say ‘Oh, I’m here for a skin thing,’ but a lot of people are walking around with undiagnosed and therefore untreated disorders, and we need to start there,” says double board certified d…
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11: How being type-A can hurt your skin | Perpetua Neo, DClinPsy
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“It’s about creating a mental framework that removes you from needing to be perfect to being OK with being good enough,” says Perpetua Neo, DClinPsy, who specializes in helping executives, perfectionists, and type-A individuals. In this episode of mindbodygreen’s beauty podcast Clean Beauty School, beauty director Alexandra Engler and Neo discuss h…
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10: Is “clean beauty” problematic? | beauty expert & journalist Jessica DeFino
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“I wish clean beauty would care about toxic beauty standards the same way it cares about toxic beauty ingredients. Because when you look at the physical and mental harm caused by beauty standards versus beauty ingredients, there's no contest: Beauty standards are so destructive to our psychological harm and to our physical bodies,” says beauty expe…
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9: Best clean makeup products for any skin type | clean & celebrity makeup artist Katey Denno
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“I always felt like if you can do better for yourself and the planet, why not? And now the clean beauty industry is freaking fantastic now, there’s no reason not to try,” says former social worker, clean beauty expert, and celebrity makeup artist Katey Denno. “Now I would never in a million years suggest that it's fine if you don't have clean beaut…
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8: The science of scent | Mindy Yang, fragrance expert
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“The sense of smell is processed differently than any other sense. You actually experience the sense of smell—it triggers our emotions and the memories—before you're able to actually process it,” says fragrance expert, reiki healer, and founder of Perfumerie Mindy Yang. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director Alexandra…