The internet‘s leading podcast on violence prevention and management. Joe Saunders is a leading expert in workplace violence and verbal de-escalation, as well as a lifelong martial artist. On this show, Joe interviews global thought leaders and legends of the self-protection, martial arts and threat assessment community and also provides his own take on how we can keep our families and communities safe. This show exists #fortheprotectors, aiming to inform and equip anyone who seeks to create ...
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MVP112: "The Gift of Violence" with Matt Thornton
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In this episode I interview Matt Thornton on his excellent book, The Gift of Violence. Matt is a researcher, author, and prolific martial artist and coach. His book takes an evidence-based approach to understanding and managing the risk of violence. Got value of out of this episode? Feel free to buy me a coffee over at www.buymeacoffee.com/joemvp W…
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MVP111: What You Need to Know Before Teaching Women's Self-Defence with Mary Stevens
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So you want to help women feel safer by teaching them some sweet self-defence moves or personal safety strategies? Chances are, if you're not part of the group you're looking to train, you might have overlooked a few things. In this cracking interview, I sit down with Mary Stevens of 500 Rising and FairFight to discuss what ALL instructors MUST kno…
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MVP110: Trump Assassination Attempt with Jack Leskovar - Secret Service Veteran
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We're back! In Episode 110 of the Managing Violence Podcast, I interview Jack Leskovar, a 30+ year veteran of the United States Secret Service about the attempted assassination on former President Donald Trump. Jack shares his informed insights into what went wrong and what lessons the USSS must take to prevent it from happening again. Want to disc…
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MVP109: ”High Conflict” with Amanda Ripley
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Amanda Ripley is a New York Times bestselling author and an investigative journalist for the Atlantic, Politico, the Washington Post and other outlets. Today she joins me to talk about her book, HIGH CONFLICT: Why We Get Trapped & How We Get OutThis is a fascinating look at the polarising conflicts of our times - whether it's Left vs Right, race vs…
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MVP108: Melissa Muir: Violence Prevention from a HR Professional’s Point of View
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Melissa Muir is a seasoned HR professional who has found her way into becoming a highly requested speaker on the topics of workplace violence, security/HR interface, identifying behavioural red flags, safe and respectful terminations and more. She is an absolute joy as a human being and combines an infectious optimism with hard-won knowledge and gr…
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MVP107: Ancient Wisdom for Modern Self-Protection with Mark Mireles
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The Book of Five Rings is a classic text on strategy and combat written by legendary samurai, Miyamoto Musashi nearly 400 years ago. Today I am joined by Mark Mireles to talk about how the wisdom contained in this book is still relevant for self protection today.Mark is a 2 time recipient of the LAPD Medal of Valor, a threat assessment and personal…
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MVP106: Mary Stevens - Soft Skills in Violence Prevention & Management
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Happy holidays!I am joined once again by Mary Stevens, an accomplished martial arts instructor and also lead instructor at Violence Prevention & Management UK. Mary is a lifelong learner and incredible teacher, so I took the opportunity to pick her brain about her last 12 months of study which includes seminars with the likes of Richard Dimitri, Pa…
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MVP105: How to Stop Mass Killings with Mike Roche
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In this episode I am joined by 40-year law enforcement officer and 26-year Secret Service veteran, Mike Roche. Mike is the author of Mass Killers: How you can identify workplace, school, or public killers before they strike In this interview we talk about the psychology of mass murderers and what Mike has learned from 20 years of studying offenders…
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MVP104: Dr Mary Beth Janke - From Secret Service to Forensic Psychologist
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Dr. Mary Beth Janke has over 30 years of psychology, security, and investigative experience and is one of the most respected females in the Executive Protection industry. Her career has been extremely impressive moving through time with the Secret Service as a Special Agent, military forces, and even Private Military Contract work. She’s the only w…
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MVP103: Understanding Stalkers with Dr Lorraine Sheridan
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Dr Lorraine Sheridan is a forensic psychologist and one of the world's leading experts in stalking. She has written 5 books and over 80 journal articles on stalking, domestic violence and various aspects of criminal justice. She is also formerly the President of the Asia-Pacific Association of Threat Assessment Professionals, and current works as a…
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MVP102: The Safest Family on the Block with Jason Brick
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"Making the decision to have a child...is to decide forever to have your heart go walking around outside your body."Keeping our kids safe (and ourselves sane) is one of our most important duties as parents...but the best advice for doing that is scattered across dozens of disciplines. Karate teachers, police, sociologists, and alarm companies all h…
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MVP101: Kerry ”Kato” Murakami on Law Enforcement Defensive Tactics
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Kerry “Kato” Murakami, the founder of Rectitude Training, LLC, is devoted to training law enforcement and the civilian defender. Kerry is a retired law enforcement officer from the State of Illinois and has spent all twenty eight years in the patrol division. He initially became a defensive tactics instructor and field training officer in 1995, a f…
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MVP100: The Future of the Self Protection Industry
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I am using this milestone episode of the Managing Violence Podcast to plant a flag.It is time we tear down this makeshift industry we have continued to patch, fix and repair over the past 70 or so years. Like a loved family home that has been renovated and added to in ad hoc fashion as it has been outgrown, sometimes the best option is to take the …
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MVP99: The Martial Art of Communication
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In this interview I have a chance to share my take on modern conflict communication, verbal de-escalation, the importance of empathy, and why you should be training speaking as much (or more than) fighting. Republished with permission from Finding the Truth. Available on all podcast platforms or here: https://anchor.fm/benjamin--myers?fbc...For mor…
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MVP98: Domestic violence and abuse with Pamela Armitage
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Pamela Armitage is the Chief Impact Officer at Study of Violence and an instructor with SAFE International. She has pioneered the trauma-informed self-defence movement and is a global thought leader in the evolution of violence management education.This is not a comfortable or fun conversation, nor should it be. Trigger warnings for discussions aro…
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MVP97: Training Elite Protectors with Bill DuChene
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Bill DuChene is the Vice President of Training & Tactics at Gavin DeBecker & Associates As the Director of Training, Bill DuChene is responsible for the development of all in house training programs to include the Essential Protector Skills Academy for all new hires, Special Field Services Academy for dedicated field agents, and the Academy for Pro…
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MVP96: Preventing Tragedy with Rick Shaw
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Rick Shaw is the founder of Awareity, founder of First Preventers, leading Prevention Coach, author of The First Preventers Playbook, and trusted advisor to organization and community leaders. For 20+ years Rick has been researching failed preventions, post-incident reports, and lessons learned and was the first to identify the profile of failed pr…
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MVP95: Violence Intervention with Dr Jim Cawood
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Dr. Cawood is President of Factor One which is a California based corporation specializing in threat assessment and management, violence risk assessment, behavioral analysis, security consulting, and investigations. Dr. Cawood has worked in the field for more than 30 years. He has successfully assessed and managed over 5000 violence related cases f…
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MVP94: The Safety Trap with Spencer Coursen
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SPENCER COURSEN is a nationally recognized threat management expert and author of THE SAFETY TRAP. He is a combat veteran, former supervisory special agent, and private security professional who’s unique global experience has supported an exceptional record of success in the assessment, management, and resolution of threats, conflict resolution, em…
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MVP BONUS EPISODE! A verbal randori with Randy and Rory
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In this special bonus episode, listen in on a conversation I had with former guests Randy King and Rory Miller as they travel around the United States on their epic RandRory Seminar Tour.Find out more about the tour here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/326802868398295Joe Saunders
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MVP93: Mark Hatmaker on Western Martial Arts and Rough‘n‘Tumble
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Mark Hatmaker is a legend of the self-protection and martial arts world, and it was a great pleasure to listen to him speak about western martial arts, boxing, wrestling and rough'n'tumble. Support Mark's websites here:https://www.extremeselfprotection.com/https://indigenousability.blogspot.com/ This is the last episode of the Managing Violence Pod…
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MVP92: Dr Tammy Yard-McCracken - #500Rising for Women‘s Self Protection
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Dr Tammy Yard-McCracken has 25+ years as a therapist working with survivors of violence, anxiety and PTSD. Wanting to do more to prevent trauma and build opportunity for resilience, Tammy became an instructor in Krav Maga and started a journey into self-protection training. Today she is the found of #500Rising - an initiative seeking to equip and e…
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MVP91: The Ethics of Martial Arts Marketing with Ron Amram
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In this episode I'm joined by good friend, martial artist, business consultant and academy owner, Ron Amram. We chat about the common pitfalls of marketing and reaching students, how easy it can be to compromise our ethics, and how the strategies that are used by predators and conmen are the same strategies we use to get their victims into training…
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MVP90: Dr James S. Cawood
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Dr. Cawood is President of Factor One which is a California based corporation specializing in threat assessment and management, violence risk assessment, behavioral analysis, security consulting, and investigations. Dr. Cawood has worked in the field for more than 30 years. He has successfully assessed and managed over 5000 violence related cases f…
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MVP89: Drone Warfare with Lt. Col. Wayne Phelps
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On this episode we chat drone warfare and the psychological cost of killing remotely with retired Lt. Col. Wayne Phelps. ***Support our Partners:FujiSports (Americas): www.fujisports.com FujiSports (Australia): https://www.fujisports.com.au/?ref=mvp Enter discount code MVP10 for 10% off your order (excludes mats, cages and custom gear)*** Make sure…
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MVP88: Situational Awareness with Dr Gav Schneider
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On this episode I am joined by my own boss, sensei, mentor and all around violence expert Dr Gav Schneider. Gav is a 7th degree black belt in krav maga and jujitsu, as well as holding a PhD in criminology specialising in use of force decision making. He is an experienced security professional, cutting his teeth protecting dignitaries in his native …
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MVP87: Lessons from Celebrity Protection with Todd Fox
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Todd Fox is the Founder & Managing Director of the Close Protection Corps which provides protective services to celebrities, executives, diplomats, and NGOs. To date the company has succesfully operated in 147 countries.Todd is a former Marine, Law Enforcement Officer, Professional Fighter and Author. His most recent book, Protection for & from Hum…
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MVP86: Security Industry Defensive Tactics with Nick Wyborn
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Nick Wyborn is a defensive tactics instructor and security professional with a combined 16 years security and law enforcement experience across multiple Government agencies. As an Operational Safety Instructor in the NSW Police Force, Nick was one of the youngest members of the WTTU (Weapons & Tactics Training Unit), a specialist unit within the NS…
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MVP85: A Scientific Approach to Reality Based Training with Jeff Quail
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Jeff Quail, MSc has a Masters degree in Applied Psychology from the University of Liverpool. Prior to becoming the CEO of Setcan Corporation, Jeff served as a law enforcement helicopter pilot in Canada. Jeff is responsible for the creation of the Shocknife, StressVest, Neck Check, SimVoice and numerous other RBT products. Jeff is a court declared e…
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MVP84: Mark Mireles - LAPD veteran, 3 x Medal of Valor recipient
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Mark's career reads like a 1980's movie, starting off in the Marine Corps serving in the infantry as a rifleman to one of the most respected police officers and martial artists in Los Angeles. He's also the author of several books and articles for magazines for Black Belt back in the day. He retired from the LAPD three years ago after three decades…
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MVP83: Asphalt Anthropology with Beverly Baker
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Asphalt Anthropology was developed by urban explorer and self-defense instructor, Beverly Baker. The goal of Asphalt is to provide skills and counter fear so that people can navigate dense, public spaces with more freedom, joy and boldness. A student and observer of violence dynamics, Beverly began her education as a girl with wanderlust undeterred…
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MVP82: Staying ALIVE with Michael Julian
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Michael Julian is the creator the A.L.I.V.E. Active Shooter Survival Training Program and CEO/President of MPS Security & Protection, providing corporate executive protection, threat and risk mitigation, and security.Joe Saunders
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MVP81: The Approach with Eddie Quinn
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Eddie Quinn is a UK-based martial arts instructor across multiple disciplines, but most well known in the Silat, Filipino Martial Arts and Muay Thai communities as well for his groundbreaking self-protection system, The Apprach.In this interview I chat to Eddie about the near-death experience of being stabbed at 18 years of age and how that led him…
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MVP80: Fight Like Your Grandad - Shanghai School of Streetfighting with Tommy Joe Moore
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Tommy Joe Moore returns to the podcast to talk Fairbairn and Sykes, WW2 combatives, the evolution of western martial arts, and his new book The Shanghai School of Streetfighting.Support our Partners:FujiSports (Americas): www.fujisports.com FujiSports (Australia): https://www.fujisports.com.au/?ref=mvp Enter discount code MVP10 for 10% off your ord…
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Lee Morrison Pt 2: Instructor Development and the Path to the Peaceful Warrior
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In part two of my recent interview with Lee Morrison, we talk about his approach to instructor development and his new evolution "the Path to the Peaceful Warrior."*** Grab Joe's book Neon Jungle: A Bouncer's True Tales of Lessons, Laughs and Lacerations at this link: https://geni.us/neonjungle Make sure you check out this episode on our website: w…
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Lee Morrison Pt 1: Becoming a Tier 1 Civilian
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Lee Morrison is the founder of Urban Combatives, a legend of the self-protection industry, and someone Geoff Thompson refers to as a "self-protection God." Lee returns to the podcast in this multi-part interview.In Part 1 we discuss Lee's Tier 1 Civilian curriculum, preparing for worst-case scenario sudden violence, and how you can be useful in tim…
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Trauma, Recovery, Revenge? Interview with Psychotherapist Ellis Amdur
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Ellis Amdur has worked in the field of crisis intervention since 1989. He has developed a range of training and consultation services, as well as a unique style of assessment and psychotherapy. These are based on a combination of phenomenological psychology and the underlying philosophical premises of classical Japanese martial traditions. Ellis’s …
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Scenario Training: Riots, interrogations, courtrooms and more with Duncan Andrews
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Duncan Andrews runs arguably the world's finest and most comprehensive scenario-training programmes for self-protection enthusiasts. Everything from live situational awareness training, to combative application, then interrogation for government trained interrogators and a mock trial with a real barrister! You can't get more real than this without …
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Ancient Wisdom, Modern Application with Lawrence Kane
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Lawrence Kane is a prolific martial arts author with 20 books to his credit including titles on how to teach martial arts, how to survive real violence and the finer points of karate. In his most recent book, he has teamed up with Kris Wylder to dissect the classic Art of War by Sun Tzu and provide a modern commentary and dissection of each of line…
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From selling drugs to the Hall of Fame - Willie Johnson‘s story of redemption through martial arts
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Willie "the Bam" Johnson is a Black Belt Magazine Hall of Fame martial artist, a 7th degree black belt in karate and a 5th degree black belt in Wushu Kung Fu. However, his story started very differently.Born in a poor neighbourhood to a disabled mother, Willie spent time between tournaments selling drugs and running the street. A pivotal moment whi…
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Debi Steven - Gender Based Violence
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My guest on episode 73 is Director of Actions Breaks Silence, Debi Steven. Debi is an experienced martial artist and martial business-woman with a passion for ending gender-based violence. She runs the amazing not-for-profit to equip women and girls with self-protection skills in Africa and India, as well as teaching boys and young men how to devel…
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Mary Stevens - Protecting the Most Vulnerable Women in the World
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"These girls live in the worst place in the world to be female." My guest on Episode 72 of the Managing Violence Podcast is Mary Stevens from the UK.Mary began karate in 2003 at the late age of 31. Her son was being bullied so she enrolled him and then took the chance to begin herself. She went on to become obsessed with the study of self-protectio…
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71: LIVE with Richard Dimitri talking about Bruce Lee, Jeet Kune Do and personal evolution
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In this interview, Rich and I dissect and react to Bruce Lee's classic 1971 article "Liberate Yourself From Classical Karate" which was his JKD manifesto. We discuss Bruce's immense impact on both our lives and the martial arts world as a whole, and the importance of growth and evolution in individuals and systems.Make sure you check out this episo…
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Lessons Learned from Two Years of Conversations with Leading Minds in Violence
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In this special two-year anniversary episode, I break down the 21 key lessons I have taken from over 150 hours of conversation with the world‘s leading experts in self-protection and violence management.Joe Saunders
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Randy King on Self-Defense for Regular People LIVE INTERVIEW!
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In this LIVE conversation with Randy King, we chat about what regular people need to know to keep safe, how Randy‘s professional focus has shifted in this direction, and how we need to educate our communities about what‘s truly important when it comes to staying safe from conflict and violence.Joe Saunders
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Totti Karpela - Conflict Resolution and Verbal De-escalation from one of Europe‘s leaders in threat assessment
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"When you're having an argument with an idiot, make sure he's not doing the same"Totti Karpela is a security expert, former police officer and Director of Peace of Mind Threat Management, currently splitting his time between Helsinki and Hong Kong. He is a global thought leader in threat assessment and an expert in verbal conflict resolution. Make …
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Who to trust? Secrets of Trust and Deception with Robin Dreeke
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Ever wondered who to trust? How to verify whether your instincts about someone are correct? Robin Dreeke‘s job after 9/11 was to recruit and catch spies for the US government as the Head of the FBI Counter-intelligence Behavioural Analysis Unit. He built a formidable range of skills to assess trustworthiness and detect signs of deception. In this p…
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MMA Hall-of-Famer, Ken Shamrock
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In this interview with MMA and WWE legend, Ken Shamrock, we talk about his troubled youth and the impact that had on his fighting career, breaking his neck as a teenager and being told he'd never play contact sports again, his fighting and wrestling career, and what he's doing now. Please enjoy this interview with an absolute legend, The World's Mo…
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Shaun O‘Gorman - PTSD in Law Enforcement
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It would be fair to say that Shaun has seen his fair share of violence and depravity throughout his life. In fact, more like many lives worth.But it has not defined the man he has become today. Despite it trying its very best.Shaun O’Gorman is a highly accomplished and recognised Retired Police Officer and former member of the Queensland Police Dog…
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Enson Inoue - Walking the Warrior‘s Path
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Enson Inoue is an MMA legend having fought in both PRIDE and the UFC against the toughest fighters in the world at their peak - fighters like Randy Couture, Frank Shamrock, Minotauro Nogueira, Igor Vovchanchyn, Mark Kerr, Heath Herring and more. Enson became famous for his philosophy of ”Yamato Damashii” (or Japanese soul). In this exclusive interv…
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