Focusing on the Relational Arts, including Circling, Nonviolent Communication, and Authentic Relating.
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Welcome to the Art of Relating podcast, where I’m figuring out life, asking questions, becoming present with the unknown, and navigating the Mystery with my dear friends. We explore the healing journey through my favorite topics like the nervous system, trauma, somatics, spirituality, psychology, and authentic relating. My mission is to empower you to discover what works best for you by tapping into the innate wisdom of your body. These conversations are one of my greatest resources, and I h ...
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Awakening and Relating is a podcast where we, Kala Hall and Brad Sterner, explore spiritual awakenings and conscious relationships. Join us as we journey through the transformative experiences that deepen our understanding of ourselves, unconditional love, and sacred intimacy. Whether you’re seeking to deepen your awakening journey, cultivate soulful relationships, or embrace the sacredness of your sexuality, this podcast offers a sanctuary of wisdom, love, and inspiration.
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Welcome to Relating To Poetry, where amazing things happen.
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Relating is about life and connecting with people. We talk to women and men from all walks of life, in all stages of their careers and lives to bring authentic, down-to-earth stories from around the globe. Hosted by Latina, and native New Yorker Jennifer Ortiz.
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A podcast that helps you create a better relationship with yourself.
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Bipolar disorder can affect a person’s ability to relate to other people and how we can make the negative aspects of the disorder positive Cover art photo provided by Fernando @cferdo on Unsplash: https://unsplash.com/@dearferdo
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Multimedia artist & parent Vyana Novus explores relational wellness through the lens of creativity. They merge their experiences of integrating complex trauma and chronic illness with a mindful, multidimensional mindset focused on creative expression. | Some topics you'll hear discussed on the show include personal responsibility, creatively exploring presence, sexual liberation, trauma recovery, relating after abuse, conscious parenting, cultivating sustainable joy, being in relationship wi ...
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How Young Men Can Thrive in This Society with Mark Walsh
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Mark Walsh is a lot of things, but if you know his name, it’s likely because of his work with embodiment. And he blends life coaching with weight training to give young men guidance. We brought him on to talk about the issues facing men and how weightlifting can help. And along the way… we talk about politics. A first for The Container—and edgy ter…
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17 - Conscious Intimacy: Deepen Your Connection & Awaken Through Intention
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In this episode, we discuss ways to have deep conscious connection with a partner. We also share what you can use to deepen into your self, opening the door to deeper more fulfilling intimate relationships. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Intimacy / Authenticity / Connection / Decompressing / Slowing down 🌿 INEKAWA IS OFFICIALLY HERE!!! CLICK HERE FOR RETREATS …
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Ep. 13: Autoimmunity and the “Good Girls” with Sara Hirsh Bordo
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Join me for an inspiring conversation with Sara, founder of Women Rising, 15x award-winning documentary filmmaker, mentor, speaker, and soon-to-be debut author with HarperCollins. Sara is also the visionary behind the first-ever sociological study exploring the link between women’s empowerment and autoimmunity in America. In this episode, Sara shar…
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Tai Chi and Circling with Peter Munthe-Kaas
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Peter Munthe-Kaas is a master of the Circling Europe tradition. He hops into the Container to discuss his blend of Circling, Tai Chi, and Daoism. 🔗Find him online at: www.munthe-kaas.dk This ties into our ongoing investigation in the Dao and Circling. You can see more of that in Episode 38: The Tao Te Ching and Circling and Episode 40: Who Is the M…
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16 - Feeling The Energy Shift?
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In this episode, we discuss feeling energy from the collective and ways to let go more deeply into present awareness. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Collective energy shifts / Duality / The story of me / Resting as awareness 🌟 SUBSCRIBE for new episodes, every Friday!! More of the Podcast: Linktree | https://linktr.ee/awakeningandrelating Instagram | https://w…
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15 - Becoming Unconscious: When Triggers and Patterns Surface
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In this episode, we discuss the acute onset of unconsciousness. When old patterns return without warning and what you can do as an individual or as a partner to assist with these heavy patterns. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Rapidly becoming unconscious; How to become aware; What can be done to help someone in this state; How neutrality is key 🌟 SUBSCRIBE for…
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What Is Metarelating? with Michael Porcelli
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We get hands-on, practical tools from a master of the relational arts—Michael Porcelli. He is the creator of MetaRelating, a powerful system blending Authentic Relating with broader communication and psychological frameworks. In this episode, Porcelli introduces a ton of helpful concepts, including the "We-Creature," a dynamic third entity between …
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Ep. 12: Healing Through Performance with Adriana
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Me and my teacher Adriana Rizzolo, founder of Body Temple Dance, nerd out about the importance of right-brain focused therapy and healing the frozen parts of us through performance, dance, song, poetry, and art. I share about my vulnerable experience singing on stage to reclaim my sacred sexuality as a pivotal part of healing from sexual trauma. Jo…
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14 - Are You In A Transactional Relationship? Transactional vs. Conscious Relating
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In this episode, we discuss the differences between Transactional and Highly Conscious Relationships. How you can start to recognize where you’re getting hung up, and how to use pattern recognition to become more present for deeper and more fulfilling relationships of all types. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Transactional Relationships; Beyond Intimate Relati…
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Tap into Life Force with Sean Wilkinson
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This episode brings us the thoughts and experience of none other than Sean Wilkinson, co-founder of Circling Europe. He walks us through the power (and dangers) of tapping into life force. Deep bow to Sean and his extraordinary contributions to human connection and awakening. We are so humbled to bring you this conversation. Check out the Circling …
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13 - What Does Spiritual Awakening Mean? Build Your Awakening Tool Kit
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In this episode, we discuss awakening itself and what it means to awaken. We also cover some tools to help deepen into awareness as awareness itself. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 What is Awakening?; Awakening through Pleasure; Different Modalities to Awaken; Building your Tool Kit Coming soon: https://inekawa.org/ Kala’s Upcoming Awakened Pleasure Masterclas…
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Ep. 11: Healing Through My Story: A Conversation with Erin and Lisa
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Erin and Lisa interview me on their “I Decide Darlings” podcast about my journey of healing from trauma and how it led me to help others do the same. I share my story as a child of an alcoholic, healing the mother wound, and overcoming sexual trauma, bulimia, body dysmorphia, disorganized attachment, depression, suicidal thoughts, anxiety, and low …
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12 - Conscious Relating: Growing Individually To Grow Together
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In this episode, we share our experience of getting lost in relationship and how mental constructs can lead to a lack of self-care. We also dive into intuition, connection, space and how practices can lead to deeper more intimate relationships. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Getting lost in relationship, maintaining personal connection, self-care practices, an…
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How Deep Does Connection Go?
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Martje Witzel comes back on the show to talk about deep connection. To each other and even to the earth itself. In this state of deep connection, we can expand our minds and discover the real meaning of things like "love" and "God." For more information on Martje, check out her website here. To support our work, remember to: 📈 Like, subscribe, rate…
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11 - Avoidance: Can You Be Present In The NOW?
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In this episode, we talk about avoidance and the patterns that can be used on the awakening path to help one open more fully to the experience of NOW. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Avoidance, letting go, pattern recognition, and egoic behaviors 🌟 SUBSCRIBE for new episodes, now *every* Friday!! More of the Podcast: Linktree | https://linktr.ee/awakeningandrel…
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Ep. 10: Navigating Conflict and Existential Kink with Kate
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Join me and my BFF for life Kate as we navigate our #1 trigger - TIME. We’ve been best friends for 22 years, and we still trigger each other’s abandonment wound when it comes to this topic. In this episode, we re-count our most recent blow-ups and discuss the multitude of creative ways we’ve learned to navigate conflict resolution, including Existe…
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Meet Each Other, Meet God with Martje Witzel
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Martje Witzel is a life coach and surrendered leadership facilitator. Sharing space with her, you can immediately feel the power of her presence and the commitment she has to the practice. In this discussion, she helps us orient to the profound (and often bizarre) features of fields created under surrendered leadership. We continue to broaden our h…
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10 - Masculine And Feminine Energies: Are You Lost In The Game?
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In this episode, we talk about the trends of masculine and feminine energies, and how these roles can keep us trapped in the game of spirituality. We also discuss finding purpose and how this can both help or hinder growth along the path. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Masculine and feminine roles, seeking behavior, and spiritual traps 🌟 SUBSCRIBE for new epis…
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The Western Esoteric Tradition with Carolyn Lovewell
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For those of us who circle and practice surrendered leadership, we've all tasted the magic in what we do. I think that means we could learn a lot (and grow a lot) from seeing how people in the world of magic organize themselves and create heightened states of presence and oneness (a cosmic version of connection). To give us that perspective, Caroly…
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09 - Awakening In Relationship: Evolving Together On The Path
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In this episode, we talk about how to engage in awakening with a partner. Awakening occurs in it’s own timing and we can help each other along the way, especially if you’re awaking with another who’s awakening as well. We also discuss what it’s like and how to relate if only one person is awakening in the relationship. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Relating t…
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Ep. 09: Downloads from God with Jennifer
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I catch up with my friend Jennifer about the similarities we are experiencing through huge shifts in our personal lives and soul-led businesses. We talk about our intuitive travels, downloads from God, and the challenges that are currently humbling us during this huge transitional phase. Jennifer’s Offerings: Current Offerings Guided Creative Direc…
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Existential Kink: The Best Form of Shadow Work with Carolyn Lovewell
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We're back on the third rung of the Container spiral! We discuss Existential K/nk with Carolyn Lovewell (formerly Carolyn Eliot). She guides us through her discovery and creation of the single best shadow work system available today. To learn more about her work, go to her website. It's Episode 42. As you may know, 42 is a powerful number in the Ka…
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Becoming Aware of Awareness - Meditation
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Sitting with awareness as awareness and recognizing the primary essence of who you are as this most fundamental beingness is what is being discussed here. We'll delve into a meditation to help awareness recognize itself and hopefully set some free of the trappings of the mind. 🌟 SUBSCRIBE for new episodes, now *every* Friday!! More of the Podcast: …
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08 - Ayahuasca: A Sacrament for Finding God
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In this episode, we dive deep into our personal experiences with Ayahuasca, how we came to sit with Ayahuasca for the first time and the years following participating in, and facilitating hundreds of ceremonies. ***We do not condone or promote the use Ayahuasca in this video. We do cover some safety considerations for those thinking about sitting w…
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Ep. 08: Sacred Sexuality, Divine Union, and Sacred Celibacy with Marsha
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Me and my friend Marsha, a feminine guide, healer, and muse dive into a juicy, vulnerable conversation about re-claiming raw sexuality, redefining relationship commitments with divine union, and how her devotion to sacred celibacy for two years was a means of self-discovery, healing, and spiritual growth. Register for Marsha’s Sacred Celibacy Cours…
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07 - Finding The One: What You're Really Searching For
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In this episode of Awakening and Relating, we share our personal journeys to finding "The One." THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Finding The One, the seeking phase, recognition of The One, conscious intimacy 🌟 SUBSCRIBE for new episodes, now *every* Friday!! More of the Podcast: Linktree | https://linktr.ee/awakeningandrelating Instagram | https://www.instagram.…
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Six Books (and a Special Announcement)
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In this episode, we outline the six books we would recommend to anyone looking to take their circling practice deeper. Tao Te Ching translated by Stephen Mitchell I Ching translated by Benebell Wen Nonviolent Communication by Marshall Rosenberg Getting Real by Susan Campbell Existential Kink by Carolyn Elliot/Lovewell No Bad Parts by Richard Schwar…
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06 - Surrendering to Love: Overcoming the Fear of Intimacy
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In this episode of Awakening and Relating, we share our different origins with intimacy before coupling, how to move through fear of intimacy, and to further surrender together in relationship. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Fear of intimacy, surrender, sexual Intimacy, and becoming one 🌟 SUBSCRIBE for new episodes, now *every* Friday!! More of the Podcast: Li…
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Who Is the Master in the Tao Te Ching?
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In this deep dive into the Tao Te Ching, The Container dives into the second chapter. We discover that "the Master" described in the text can actually be used as a stand-in for the circle itself. ================================================================= Chapter 2 When people see some things as beautiful, other things become ugly. When peopl…
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Sacred Intimacy with Adam Quiney
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Adam Quiney joins us once again to discuss the practice of Sacred Intimacy. This is a step-by-step process to build a strong physical connection from the ground up. To find more Adam Quiney go to his website at: www.AdamQuiney.com Connect with him on Facebook and LinkedIn. To support our work, remember to: 📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review 🙌 Beco…
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05 - Navigating Loneliness Along the Spiritual Path
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In this episode of Awakening and Relating, we talk about how loneliness shows up in and out of relationship, before and after awakening and what you can do to help navigate it. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Loneliness, phases during awakenings and relational connections 🌟 SUBSCRIBE for new episodes every other Friday!! More of the Podcast: Linktree | https://…
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The Tao Te Ching and Circling
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This episode marks the beginning of our The Way That Can Be Told series, where Sigh and I go through each chapter of the Tao Te Ching. On our long walk, we'll circle ourselves taking in the wisdom and connect it to the art and practice of circling itself. This first episode is being offered on the free feed, but the vast majority of this 81+ episod…
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Notes for the Spiritual Path with Adam Quiney
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Adam Quiney is a coach, podcaster, and spiritual thinker. We had an incredible conversation about the spiritual path, roaming through how we work with the ego, trauma, and let go. It's a beautiful walk through the spiritual path. So, join in! To find more Adam Quiney go to his website at: www.AdamQuiney.com Connect with him on Facebook and LinkedIn…
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04 - Identification: How to Recognize and Let Go Into Deeper States of Awareness
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In this episode of Awakening and Relating, we explore where one becomes identified, how that identification is projected into the world, and how this leads to suffering. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Identification, social media roles and projections, and removing the mask 🌟 SUBSCRIBE for new episodes every other Friday!!! More of the Podcast: Linktree | http…
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We Repair with Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates
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Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates takes us through a REPAIR process on the show! She shows us how conflict can be a doorway to deeper connection by working with conflict between The Container's hosts. It's edgy for us to present, and we are grateful we get to add this level of vulnerability to the project. To learn more about the REPAIR Process, go here. To si…
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Repair Connection with Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates
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Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates comes on the podcast to teach us about the REPAIR process, a powerful tool for connection. It's exciting. It's informative. It's practical. To learn more about the REPAIR Process, go here. To sign up for the 8-week course starting July 2, go here. To support our work, remember to: 📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review 🙌 Become a…
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03 - Love Without Labels: A Different Way to Relate
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In this episode of Awakening and Relating, we share how we navigate our relationship without labels. We explore societal expectations, attachments, and patterns that commonly arise in 3D relationships and provide insight on how to move beyond them. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Labeling attachments, relationship expectations, and awakening through relationshi…
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02 - Doorways to Awaken: Suffering, Pleasure, and Presence
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In this episode of Awakening and Relating, we talk about the various doorways into awakening. Brad experienced his through suffering, while Kala is experiencing hers through sexual pleasure. We explore different entry points and how presence is the ultimate way in. THEMES DISCUSSED 👉 Paths to awaken, suffering, pleasure as a beacon, and presence 🌟 …
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01 - Coupling Beyond Beliefs: Letting Go of Old Patterns
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In this episode of Awakening and Relating, we share about the challenges we faced as we entered relationship consciously. We both experienced resurfacing of old patterns and beliefs that would have previously caused trouble leading to conflict and resentment. Join us as we navigate the journey of conscious relating, letting go into love and freedom…
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Going Beyond Circling with Melody Indigo Markel
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Melody Indigo Markel joins us again to outline the world that awaits us when we go beyond circling. She talks about embodied leadership, a way that the skills we develop while circling turn into a fully integrated life path. Find Melody Indigo Markel at her: Website Instagram To support our work, remember to: 📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review 🙌 B…
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IT'S FINALLY HERE!! The first episode of the Awakening & Relating Podcast will be airing June 21st. New episodes will be released every other Friday.Awakening and Relating Podcast
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The Joys of Integral Circling with Melody Indigo Markel
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Melody Indigo Markel joins us to discuss Integral Circling, a potent form of the practice. She was part of the generation of facilitators that helped create the foundation for the circling world from the magical Integral Center in Boulder, Colorado. Today, she has used that basis of self-knowledge and capacity for welcoming everything to develop a …
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Trauma-Informed Circling with John Thompson
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In this third part of our interview with John Thompson of Circling Europe, we discuss how circling can be trauma-informed under surrendered leadership. Visit Circling Europe's website here. To support our work, remember to: 📈 Like, subscribe, rate, and review 🙌 Become a patron on Patreon 💌 Subscribe for free to our newsletter Want to connect and le…
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The Essence of Surrendered Leadership with John Thompson
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In this second part of our interview with John Thompson of Circling Europe, we discuss the concept of Surrendered Leadership. The full depth of the idea really popped us, expanding from a way to run a circle to a true path to spiritual awakening. Check out the Circling Europe website here. To support our work, remember to: 📈 Like, subscribe, rate, …
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The Magickal Path of Circling with John Thompson
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None other than John Thompson of Circling Europe joins us to talk about his journey from seeker to circler. We talk about the magickal path that circling opens up, and John shares his wisdom as an adept in the field. Check out the Circling Europe website here. If you would like to learn more about circling, authentic relating, nonviolent communicat…
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Men, Porn, and Intentional Relationships with Robert Kandell
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Our Eros Series concludes (yes, concludes) with the second half of our conversation with Robert Kandell. We discuss major topics affecting the male erotic world, including the rise of free streaming video pornography, rediscovering intimacy, and liberating your power with intentionality both in your relationships and your life. To find more Robert …
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It's Time to Be Seen with Robert Kandell
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Our Eros Series takes us to none other than Robert Kandell. His path is winding one—from the American dream to psychedelic exploration to orgasmic meditation to thought leading to life as a fractional CFO. He tells us how he left his standard, boilerplate life at 28 to discover a world of profound authenticity and fulfillment. To find more Robert K…
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Let the Anger Out with Sara Ness and Geof Krum
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We welcome Sara Ness and Geof Krum once again to the Eros Series. This time, we discuss the power of hot anger and the gifts we receive when we work with this force. Hand in hand with Eros, these two energies have a lot of potential to radically change our lives and relationships for the better. We also dive into the relationship between Sara and G…
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Fight Better, Love More with Sara Ness and Geof Krum
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Our Eros Series continues with two highly influential leaders of the Authentic Relating movement, none other than Sara Ness and Geof Krum! They talk to us about their backgrounds and what it is like to use those well-honed skills of authenticity in their relationship. We end up focusing on healthy conflict and how fighting better can lead to loving…
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Hear Us Get Couples Coaching with Susan Campbell
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This episode is totally unlike anything we've ever done. Today, you'll hear us get couples coaching with Susan Campbell, author The Couple's Journey, Getting Real, and From Triggered to Tranquil. It's a wild part of our ongoing Eros Series. Check out last week's episode to hear our interview with her. Curious to learn more about Susan Campbell or w…
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