Listen as Christian, a young composer, and Kara, a young choir director, interview music teachers of all kinds in order to learn everything they can about music education. This is the perfect podcast for beginning and veteran music educators alike, as well as composers and music students. Whether you teach choir, band, orchestra, or something else, all are welcome! It's time to go beyond the measure. Brought to you by Christian Fortner Music.
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#42: The Power of Traditions in an Ensemble | With Jay Lester (Part 2)
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! In the second part of our interview with HSU Cowboy Band Director Jay Lester, we learn about the different traditions the he incorporates in his band - and how traditions in your own ensemble can bring a greater sense of community to the group. Download the show notes for this episode HERE. Follow our offic…
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#41: Through the Eyes of an Administrator | With Jay Lester (Part 1)
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! This week, former Fine Arts Director of Abilene ISD Jay Lester joins us to discuss the many roles that an administrator plays in music education. He also shows the key things that admin looks for when hiring, as well what you should and should not do during a music teacher job interview! Download the show n…
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#40: How to Leave a Lasting Legacy | With Loyd Hawthorne
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! We had the honor of sitting down with Dr. Loyd Hawthorne to learn how he impacted the lives of countless students over the course of his career. From conducting all-state choirs to traveling across the state of Texas to recruit for his program, Dr. Hawthorne tells us the secret to making a difference in the…
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#39: Tone Sets the Tone for Success | With Mary Jane Phillips (Part 2)
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! In the second part of our interview with Mary Jane Phillips, we learn the story behind her ensembles' successes - and how great tone quality in her groups was the foundation of that success. She also gives us a behind-the-scenes look at how her "SOS" and "Choir Hacks" materials came to be - as well as a gli…
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#38: Middle School Music Hacks | With Mary Jane Phillips (Part 1)
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! We are excited to welcome Mary Jane Phillips onto the show, who is a well-known mentor for choir directors across the country and co-author of the SOS sight-reading books. She is also the creator of “Choir Hacks,” her TPT store materials. Mary Jane joins us to discuss how to manage the middle school classro…
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#37: Student Connection as the Foundation of Music-Making | With Mike Lunney
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Welcome to the first episode of Beyond the Measure - Season 2! Many of us get so caught up in creating music that we forget that we are actually creating leaders. Student leadership and connection is the foundation of everything else we do in the classroom, and our success as a group depends on it. The goal…
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#36: The Importance of Honesty to Students... And Yourself | With Tanatchaya Chanphanitpornkit
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Welcome to end of "Season 1" of Beyond the Measure! Our final guest is Tanatchaya (Tanya) Chanphanitpornkit, who is the orchestra director of many different ensembles, including the Crescendo Orchestra at the New York Youth Symphony. We discuss with Tanya the significance that honesty and vulnerability can …
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#35: How To Grow Your Conducting Skills | With Andrew Kim
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! We've all heard that there is much more beneath the "tip of the iceberg" when it comes to conducting, but what does that actually look like? And what best practices can we do as conductors to grow as music educators? This week, Dr. Andrew Kim of the New York Youth Symphony and Conducting Institute joins us …
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#34: Acknowledging What Skills Need to Improve | With Andrea Cruz
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Being in a profession like music education comes with a lot of scrutiny. This can cause a lot of stress on us and make us afraid to be truly vulnerable - and not just with other people, but with ourselves. It’s important to take time to look in the mirror and ask ourselves “What am I struggling with in the …
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#33: Creating the Right Tone - in Music AND in Leadership | With Brandon Farren
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! This week, Brandon Farren, head choral director at Canyon High School, joins us to discuss how directors can maintain a healthy tone in their ensemble - both from a musical perspective and from the students' perspective. Download the show notes for this episode HERE. Follow our official Instagram page and b…
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#32: The Future of Music Education | With Stephen Cox
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! In this episode, Grammy Award-winner Stephen Cox joins us to discuss how the current systems in the music education field will make an impact on the future of our profession. What are we doing now that is working? What's not working? And what changes need to happen soon before more turn away from the profes…
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#31: Finding Balance and Renewal in the Music Profession | With Frank Eychaner (Part 2)
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! This is the second part of our interview with Dr. Frank Eychaner, Director of Choral Activities at the University of Central Arkansas. Frank discusses ways that music educators can continue to renew themselves and take the right steps toward staying mentally and physically healthy. Download the show notes f…
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#30: What Excellence Looks Like as a Music Teacher | With Frank Eychaner (Part 1)
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Enjoy the first part of our interview with Dr. Frank Eychaner, who is the Director of Choral Activities at the University of Central Arkansas. In this episode, Frank talks about how music directors can have mental and emotional sustainability in our jobs - even after years and years of experience (and there…
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#29: Big Schools vs. Small Schools - Is There A Difference? | With Jason Jones
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! This week, we welcome Jason Jones to the podcast, who is the band director at Central High School in San Angelo, Texas. Jason has much experience in both large and small music programs, and he tells us about what sort of differences you can find between the two - and whether that should make a difference in…
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#28: How Student Leaders Can Positively Contribute to Classroom Culture | With Sarah Gleason (Part 2)
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! In the second part of our interview with the New Canaan High School Choir Director, Sarah Gleason provides simple ways that student leaders can help influence others to be all-on-board with the purpose of success for an ensemble. Download the show notes for this episode HERE. Follow our official Instagram p…
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#27: Creating Community Through Student Leadership | With Sarah Gleason (Part 1)
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! This is the first part of our two-part interview with Sarah Gleason, Choral Director of the New Canaan High School Choir. In this episode, Sarah stresses the importance of community in an ensemble as the foundation of success in all other areas and how giving up control to the students in certain aspects of…
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#26: Evolving Concerts to Engage Audiences | With Jeff Goolsby
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Dr. Jeff Goolsby, Director of Choral Activities at Abilene Christian University, joins us to discuss how he came to be a choir director and how he takes many different avenues to create a unique concert experience. We no longer live in an age where being expected to sit down, “shut up,” and listen to live m…
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#25: Fostering a Culture of Success in an Ensemble | With Troy Robertson
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! This week, we have Dr. Troy Robertson, head choral director at Tarleton State University, join us on the show! Troy has worked with many different choirs across the country and tells us what he believes are the most important foundations of any ensemble: Community, Excellence, and Beauty. Follow our officia…
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#24: The True Purpose and Practice of Conductors | With Miguel Harth-Bedoya
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! In this week's episode, we have the privilege of talking to Miguel Harth-Bedoya, conductor of the Baylor University Symphony Orchestra and Director of Orchestral Studies. With many years of experience conducting orchestras all around the world, Miguel tells us about what the ultimate goal of a conductor sho…
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#23: How Composers Can HELP Music Educators | With Luke McMillan
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! This week, we sit down with composer Luke McMillan, who is very well-known for creating accessible marching shows for small school band programs. Luke tells us how he came to become a full-time composer and the strategies he uses to be a resource to band directors and other music educators across the countr…
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#22: Creating Enthusiasm Through Ensemble Innovation | With Darcy Radcliffe
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Darcy Radcliffe, former orchestra director at Abilene and Cooper High Schools, created a new type of string orchestra ensemble called Revolution Strings. After experiencing many incredible successes with the group, she has joined us on this week's episode to give insight as to how she created it, what steps…
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#21: How Band Directors Handle an Onslaught of Necessary Planning | With Jon Kraemer
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! For music educators, the constant task of having to observe, evaluate, and improve is imperative for having a successful experience for students. However, this habit, paired with the overwhelming amount of tasks needed to be done each week can lead to huge amounts of stress. In this episode, Dr. Jon Kraemer…
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#20: Uniting Different Ensembles and Experiences | With Allison King
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! We are very excited to bring our first guest with an orchestral background onto the show! Mrs. Allison King is the orchestra director at L.D. Bell High School in Hurst, Texas. Allison brings a variety of insight for directors finding their first gigs, teaching string orchestra, and coordinating with other d…
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#19: How to Keep Your Students Accountable in the Music Classroom
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! It can be hard leading a rehearsal when your students don't have the motivation to try in your classroom. In this week's episode, we discuss different ways you can incentivize your students to come to class with an attitude and expectation of success and responsibility. Follow our official Instagram page an…
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#18: How to Discipline Your Students and Earn Their Respect | With Reece Kingcade
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! One of the hardest aspects of teaching for many people is disciplining students while keeping them engaged and enjoying the class as a whole. In this episode, Mr. Reece Kingcade, Head Choral Director at Cooper High School, joins us to discuss how disciplining students in the makes a difference for an entire…
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#17: From Composer, to Teacher, to Administrator: A Variety of Leadership Positions | With Jeffrey Cottrell
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Dr. Jeffrey Cottrell is the Associate Dean of the School of Music at Hardin-Simmons University. He is also the director of the HSU Jazz Band, a private instructor of low brass, an active performer, and award-winning composer. In this week's episode, he joins us to discuss his journey through many different …
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#16: The Makers of Music and the Dreamers of Dreams
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! As the school year begins, we wanted to simply share with you all some words of encouragement. Please take them to heart as you begin and continue throughout the school year, and remember that what do matters. What you do changes lives. And therefore, what you do changes the world. Follow our official Insta…
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#15: 12 Accessible Tools to Make Your Life Easier in the Music Classroom
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! As the new school year begins, we wanted to share 12 tools that can help you in your everyday tasks in the music classroom. Most of these are either free or very cheap and can make a big difference! Follow our official Instagram page and become a part of the community! Browse Kara's TPT Store! Pinstripe tap…
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#14: How to Work with Middle Schoolers in the Music Classroom | With Lyndsey Ransford
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Everybody knows it: Middle Schoolers are quite the adventure to work with in any classroom, but especially in a musical setting. Lyndsey Ransford, Head Choral Director at Craig Middle School, joins us on this week's episode to talk about the best ways to work with middle school students, how to get them to …
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#13: How Classroom Structure Sets the Stage for Success | With Wendy Weeks
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! This week, Wendy Weeks, head choral director at Abilene High School, joins us to talk about the importance of having structure in your classroom from day 1, and how it affects the rest of the teaching and learning experience for both you and your students. Follow our official Instagram page and become a par…
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#12: Patience and Authenticity as a Composer and Teacher | With Remel Derrick
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! In this week's episode, choral composer and assistant choral director at Abilene High School, Remel Derrick joins us on the podcast to discuss his composition and publishing processes, as well as how it applies to the classroom and our lives overall. This is a great episode for teachers who are just beginni…
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#11: How To Stay Grounded Through Physical, Mental, and Emotional Habits | With Serayah Peters
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Serayah Peters is a private vocal instructor, as well as the director of the a-cappella group BackBeat from Chorus Abilene. She joins us on this week's episode to discuss habits that help us stay grounded throughout our work - to have a foundation - physically, mentally, spiritually, and more. We also talk …
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#10: Techniques for Efficiency in Rehearsal | With Travis Lowery
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! In this episode, Director of Music Ministries at First United Methodist Church Stephenville and Assistant Conductor of the Abilene Chamber Singers, Travis Lowery joins us to discuss a variety of topics, including young vs. old and amateur vs. professional ensembles, the benefits of having a performance back…
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#9: The School Year is Over! Let's Reflect.
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! If you're a teacher or student, congratulations on getting through the school year! This week, the Fortners reflect on Kara's first full year of teaching, what she did well, and what she could improve upon next year. This is the perfect episode to think about your past year and what you plan to do different…
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#8: What To Do When Starting a New Music Program | With Brady McNeil
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Brady McNeil, Director of Bands at McMurry University, joins us on this week's episode to talk about how he began a new choral program at a large high school, the pros and cons of getting your graduate and doctoral degrees early, and the benefit of teaching a variety of ensembles. Follow our official Instag…
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#7: The Art of Collaboration in Music | With Abigail Payne
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! In this episode, Abigail Payne, Executive Director of Chorus Abilene, joins us to discuss the necessity of collaboration within ensembles, schools, and the community. We also talk about doing what's necessary vs. what you want, and how to use circumstantial constrictions as an opportunity for creativity. Fo…
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#6: The Importance of Relationships with Mentors, Colleagues, and Students | With Bill Harden
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Mr. Bill Harden, director of bands at Hardin-Simmons University, tells us about the many different people that made an impact on his career and made it possible for him to be where he is today. We discuss the importance of maintaining relationships with the people around us and how we can use those relation…
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#5: How to Integrate Music Theory into Your Rehearsals | With Bernard Scherr
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! In this episode, Dr. Bernard Scherr, Professor of Music Theory and Composition at Hardin-Simmons University and McMurry University, joins us to discuss a variety of topics including how to recruit for your ensemble, advice for young composers in the classroom, the fundamentals of music literacy, and how to …
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#4: The Biggest Lessons Learned from Robert Shaw & Don Neuen | With Dee Romines
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Dee Romines, Director of Choral Activities at Hardin-Simmons University, joins us on this episode to discuss his time singing and studying with legendary conductors Don Neuen and Robert Shaw and the some of the biggest lessons he learned during his time with them. We also get to hear his unique perspective …
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#3: A Young Composer's Journey from Orchestral Roots to Choral Growth | With Christian Fortner
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! In this episode, Christian tells his story from growing up with orchestral music to his life-changing experience in choir. He also describes his experience as a music major in college and where he currently is in his journey to compose music full-time. Follow our official Instagram page and become a part of…
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#2: The Struggles and Strengths of a First-Year Music Teacher | With Kara Fortner
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! Kara describes her journey from experiencing the strength, beauty, and community of being in a music ensemble in grade school to her first year of teaching. She also talks about her musical inspirations and the lessons she's learned during her first year. Follow our official Instagram page and become a part…
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#1: Introduction - The Symbiotic Relationship Between Music Educators and Composers
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Have a guest recommendation? Let us know! In this inaugural episode of the podcast, Christian and Kara introduce themselves and describe how they met, where they are in their journey right now, and the importance of the relationship between music educators and composers. They also discuss how this podcast came to be, the purpose of it, and what you…
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