Episode 86: Toxic People and How to Deal With Them with Lynn Zakeri, LCSW


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We see the phrase "toxic" all the time - toxic person, toxic workplace, toxic relationship - but what exactly does it mean? And, how do you deal with a toxic person/coworker/family member/bandmate?

Chicago therapist Lynn Zakeri, LCSW and I dive into the meaning of the word "toxic" and share how to deal with a toxic person!

We explore:

What exactly is a “toxic person”?

How do you know if you’re dealing with a toxic person?

How does a toxic person make you feel?

How does a toxic person behave?

Why are some people “toxic”?

How do you deal with a toxic person you can’t escape (family member, etc)?

Can you change a toxic person?

How to deal with guilt when setting boundaries?

How to approach a disagreement/conflict with a toxic person?

How do I know someone is toxic? How do I know I’m not the problem?

My bandmate is toxic, but they also are very creative and add a lot to the band. What do I do?

Song featured: "Empty Life" by Jessica Risker

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Music Therapy is hosted by Jessica Risker, produced by Sullivan Davis of Local Universe, and engineered by Joshua Wentz in Chicago.

Opening and closing music composed by Joshua Wentz.

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