The Rational Optimist Rationalizes the Pandemic | Matt Ridley

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When Matt Ridley joined us most recently, he and co-author Alina Chan - a molecular biologist specializing in gene therapy and cell engineering - had just released Viral: The Search for the Origin of COVID-19, which defends why people ought to take the SARS-CoV-2 lab-leak hypothesis seriously.

One year later - now that the politicization regarding every aspect of Covid has subdued - Matt rejoins the podcast to discuss what he's learned over the past twelve months.

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