The Quadruple Migration (with Rijk van Zanten)

DejaVue

To start the year light and fun, Michael and Alex are joined by Rijk van Zanten, the creator of Directus.

Of course we talk about his journey into web development, the Vue.js ecosystem, what Directus is and why he chose Vue over other frameworks for it's extensible frontend.

Further, Rijk shares his thoughts on the Vue.js job market and how his "Quadruple Migration", over to the Composition API, Pinia, Vue 3 and Vite, went. As a cherry on top - this all started *very* early in the development cycle of Vue 3!

But the fun doesn't and there because Rijk comes with the one or the other hot take on topics like TypeScript and whether our libraries will be worse for JavaScript developers, testing, and many many other scenarios.

Enjoy the Episode!

Our Guest

Rijk van Zanten

• Directus
• BlueSky
• Web

Chapters

• (00:00) - Welcome to DejaVue
• (00:47) - How did you got into Web Development and Vue?
• (03:10) - Does Vue appeal to a certain kind of people?
• (05:35) - The web as the primary platform
• (07:47) - What is Directus?
• (10:34) - Why Vue.js and not React for Directus?
• (18:28) - Jobs for Vue vs. React Developers
• (26:33) - Green Flags for Hiring Candidates
• (27:19) - Composition API and Pinia from 0.0.1
• (39:02) - Breaking changes and Migrating from early versions
• (44:28) - Testing when Prototyping - Unit and E2E
• (53:11) - The right level of Testing for the project
• (55:56) - Mutation Testing
• (59:09) - Does TypeScript makes us writing worse JS libraries?
• (01:09:09) - Dealing with Legacy and EOL
• (01:18:38) - Where can people Follow you?
• (01:19:42) - Wrapping up

Links and Resources

• Join Vue.js Amsterdam 2025* and get 10% off with code DEJAVUE

• ConTejas Podcast with Alex
• Michael's Clean Components Toolkit
• Michael's Upcoming Composable Design Course
• Daniel Roe's React To Nuxt Course
• Alex's Next to Nuxt Migration in less than 1h Video
• Stryker Mutation Testing Framework
• DejaVue Episode #038 - Self-founding and growing a Nuxt-based SaaS (with Sumit Kumar)

Your Hosts

Alexander Lichter

• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

Michael Thiessen

• Twitter
• YouTube
• Website

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