Babes, Bosses and Babies is a weekly podcast from the minds and mouths of Alisha Pace and Sierra Schubach. Inspired by weekly convos and rants about life as a working mom, some episodes the gals will be joined with an assortment of guests. From the momtrepreneur to the CEO next door, join them each week as they get down and dirty with the truth about being working moms, friendships, relationships and all things bossy.
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Our podcast examines the pivotal role people play in creating inclusive workplaces that are built for the future. How does inclusion impact our well-being? Why is it a business imperative? Each episode weaves together storytelling and research-driven conversations with globally recognized authors, experts, and DEI practitioners. Each month, join host and MetLife’s VP and Global Chief Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Officer Dr. Cindy Pace as she tackles actionable steps we can take to advance ...
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Let's Talk Faith and Spirituality with Mark Fowler
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There are some parts of our identity that are invisible to the eye, but heavily impact how we show up in the world. Religion isn’t a new topic, but it can sometimes be a sensitive one. - but this is why our conversations matter. Mark Fowler, CEO of Tanenbaum, is joining us today with some of the best guidelines on how to embrace religion at work. B…
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How to Work with Everyone (Yes Anyone) with Amy Gallo
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Are you a know-it-all? Is your boss insecure? Do you have a passive aggressive co-worker? If someone at work is difficult, our guest Amy Gallo can help you learn to deal with them. She is the best-selling author of Getting Along, How to Work With Everyone (Even Difficult People) and HBR Guide to Dealing with Conflict. Amy has had a successful caree…
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Beyond the Conversations | How to Wire Our Brains for Success
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We hear a lot about what our bodies need, but what do our minds need? Well the doctors are in the house! We are going beyond our conversations with Dr. David Rock, Dr. Alisha Moreland-Capuia and Rajesh Anandan. We’ll discuss what our brains are doing at work. Don’t worry, we are going to have a few pop culture references to simplify the science! We…
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Your Brain at Work with Dr. David Rock
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Inclusion and neuroscience are inextricably linked. Evolution has made us crave inclusion and the workplace is no exception to that. Dr. David Rock coined the term neuroleadership and founded the Neuroleadership Institute. He's also done years of research on how our brains work and written four books including, Your Brain at Work. In this episode, …
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What’s Love Got to Do with Work? with Dr. Alisha Moreland-Capuia (Part 2)
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We are back with Dr. Alisha Moreland-Capuia to talk about love, check-ins and workplace mental health best practices. We wanted to bring her back to highlight why mental health conversations need to happen. One of Dr. Alisha’s favorite quotes is by Dr. Maya Angelou, “I’m human, therefore nothing human can be alien to me.” The key to mental wellness…
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What’s Love Got to Do with Work? with Dr. Alisha Moreland-Capuia (Part 1)
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Checking in isn’t just for hotels. A simple and meaningful “how are you doing today” can go a long way in the workplace. Imagine how work would feel if we treated one another with the same level of concern, respect and care as we did ourselves and our friends. Dr. Alisha Moreland-Capuia has made the pledge to be the best she can be, each and every …
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How to Unlock the Competitive Edge of Neurodiversity with Rajesh Anandan
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There isn’t only one way to think about DEI. Today’s guest has made it his literal business to encourage more neurodiversity in the workplace. Via Team X, Rajesh Anandan’s mission at Ultranauts is to help other businesses’ decode their workplace chemistry in order to unlock value. In this episode we discuss what neurodiversity means, why it can mak…
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Beyond the Conversations | What Great Leaders Need to Know
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Leaders need to be led from time to time. Whether it's by a mentor, a coach or their team providing feedback. Having a personal team of advisors is just one bit of advice our leadership arc has covered this season. We go Beyond the Conversations to get insight into why we need more than our own self assessment to improve, the differences in long-te…
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Being a Mentor and Not a Tormentor with Ruth Gotian
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Everyone needs a mentor. But being a good mentor and finding a good mentor isn’t easy. Dr. Ruth Gotian is an accomplished author and social scientist. She wrote The Success Factor: Developing the Mindset and Skillset for Peak Business Performance and her second book, The Financial Times Guide to Mentoring was just released in the United States. Rut…
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The Secrets of a Winning Team with Stefanie Johnson
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How you ever wondered what the secrets are for a winning team? Research shows that diverse teams are often more innovative and better performing than homogenous teams but those studies come with a caveat. Stefanie Johnson is a researcher, speaker, writer and professor at the University of Colorado Boulder. In this episode, she explains that we only…
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Why a Coach is a Game Changer with Scott Osman and Jacquelyn Lane
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There’s always room for improvement. No matter who you are, your industry, or where you are in your career. Over the past few years the idea of executive coaching has exploded. Coaching experts, Scott Osman and Jacquelyn Lane are the leaders of the 100 Coaches Agency. In the episode, they help us explore what coaching actually is, who needs a coach…
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How to Bridge What Divides Us with Sally Helgesen
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We all have a role to play in creating an inclusive culture. From the most junior person on a team to the most senior person in a company, we can ask questions, make a plan for dealing with non-inclusive behaviors and contribute to DEI initiatives. Sally Helgesen is known as a prolific writer, thinker, and speaker. Her most recent book is titled, R…
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Why Your Email Isn’t Working with Erica Dhawan
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Today’s guest describes us all as immigrants to the new world of work. With a workforce that spans at least 4 generations, she believes that many of us need to learn a new way of communicating in order to adapt to a hybrid workplace. Erica Dhawan is a speaker, researcher and the author of Digital Body Language: How to Build Trust and Connection, No…
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Who has the power to make a difference? Can anyone be a leader? How do we work together now that the future of work is here? This is Inclusion Begins with Me: Conversations That Matter. I’m your host, Dr. Cindy Pace, Vice President and Global Chief Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Officer at MetLife. From our communication style, to the way we conne…
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Beyond the Conversations with Risha Grant, Hannah Riley Bowles, and Irene Natividad
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Imagine a world that celebrates difference, is free from bias, and full of diversity. That’s the world International Women’s Day is trying to build with the themes such as Inspire Inclusion and Invest in Women: Accelerate Progress. All of the guests on our show are helping to push us toward that inspiring world. In this episode (recorded on Interna…
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Womenomics: Why Women Drive Economies with Irene Natividad
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March is women’s history month in the U.S and International Women’s Day is coming up. There is no one better to celebrate with than Irene Natividad. In this episode, Irene busts myths about women at work, gives us a few mini history lessons, and explains why simple economics demands more women in the workforce. You can learn more about Irene and he…
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Becoming a Compassionate Negotiator with Hannah Riley Bowles
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What pops into your head when you hear the word negotiation? What if we thought of compassion, empathy, and emotional intelligence? By the end of this episode (or master class if you will) you’ll have a completely new definition of the word negotiation thanks to Hannah Riley Bowles from the Harvard Kennedy School. At Metlife, we are committed to di…
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Radical Acceptance: Yourself, Others and The World with Risha Grant
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What’s preventing you from being inclusive? Is it judgment? Fear? Bias? Do you just not know where to start? That’s okay! Risha Grant’s super power is radical candor so she’s joining today’s show to tell you exactly how to practice self acceptance and have conversations that matter. At Metlife, we are committed to diversity, equity and inclusion an…
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Inclusion Resolutions 2024
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We’re kicking off 2024 with our Inclusion Resolutions! Listeners of the podcast from around the world shared how they’re going to create more inclusive workplaces and have conversations that matter. We’re adding context and advice to these resolutions so that you can set your own. Please share your resolutions with us either on our LinkedIn post fo…
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Beyond the Conversations with Amy Edmondson, Michael Bush, Ella Washington and Michelle King
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Our past few guests have taught us about creating positive work places. In this episode Dr. Cindy Pace goes Beyond the Conversations and shares her personal steps for making your workplace great. At Metlife, we are committed to diversity, equity and inclusion and we believe making a difference in the lives of our customers, community, and the world…
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Making Work Work for You with Michelle King - Part 2
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The future of work isn’t coming - it’s here. That’s what Michelle King told us in part one. Now, she gives us concrete ways to navigate the new way that work works. This is part two of our series with Michelle King. If you haven’t listened to part one yet please go back and listen. At Metlife, we are committed to diversity, equity and inclusion and…
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Making Work Work for You with Michelle King - Part 1
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Does anyone ever tell you how the business world works or do you just get thrown into it to figure it out for yourself? In this episode, Michelle King unveils the unspoken rules of the modern workplace. She analyzes how we got here through her own origin story, and shares how to grow in your career without losing yourself. This is a two part series…
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Dr. Ella Washington on Making Real Progress in DEI
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Diversity, equity and inclusion is a journey that takes effort, commitment and a strategy. In this episode, Dr. Ella Washington talks about putting the thought and research of DEI into practice. At Metlife, we are committed to diversity, equity and inclusion and we believe making a difference in the lives of our customers, community, and the world …
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Michael Bush on What Makes a Great Place to Work For All
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In this episode, Michael Bush, CEO of Great Place to Work shares insights about how to be a leader for all, not just for some and how to build great work environments for all. At Metlife, we are committed to diversity, equity and inclusion and we believe making a difference in the lives of our customers, community, and the world around us is #AllTo…
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Dr. Amy Edmondson on Why Psychological Safety is Mission Critical to Excellence
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Whose job is it to create a positive work environment? What is the best way for teams to work together? What does it mean to have psychological safety? Dr. Amy Edmondson is the Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at Harvard Business School. She has written over sixty scholarly papers and seven books, including her recent book, The Right…
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Beyond the Conversations with Rohini Anand, Laura Morgan Roberts, Tim Ryan and Shannon Schuyler
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What does DEI look like in practice? How do DEI practitioners make systematic change? How does one prepare for a role in the diversity and inclusion space? In this episode, Dr. Cindy Pace shares more about: what happens when leadership teams work together to advance DEI teaching future generations of leaders how to be great DEI practitioners why ch…
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Tim Ryan and Shannon Schuyler on Persistence, Practice, Purpose, and Action
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How can major brands and businesses use their platform to create change internally and externally? How can a CEO affect the entire culture of their organization? How can leadership teams create change that is long lasting and systemic? Tim Ryan is the U.S. Senior Partner at PwC and Shannon Schuyler is the Chief Purpose and Inclusion Officer. Togeth…
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Laura Morgan Roberts on Going the Distance
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How do you maximize the potential of diverse organizations? What does that work feel like when you’re in the middle of it? How do you teach DEI? Dr. Laura Morgan Roberts is an Associate Professor of Business Administration at the University of Virginia’s Darden School of Business. In this episode, we spoke with her about: practical tools for advanc…
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Dr. Rohini Anand on Chief Diversity Officers Disrupting World Views
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What is the role of a Chief Diversity Officer? How do you approach DEI from a global perspective? How can a good CDO educate leaders and transform organizations? Rohini Anand is a former Chief Diversity Officer and is the author of Leading Global Diversity, Equity and Inclusion: A Guide for Systemic Change in Multinational Organizations. In this ep…
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Beyond the Conversations with Mary-Frances Winters, Iris Bohnet and Beth Fisher Yoshida
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What effect does power have in a workplace? How do we share power? Where does the power and drive come from in DEI leaders? In this episode, Dr. Cindy Pace shares more about: Why we all have power How to turn hierarchical power into shared power How powerful DEI can be when we all work together At Metlife, we are committed to diversity, equity and …
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Iris Bohnet on Closing Gender Gaps
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What do women do once they achieve leadership positions? How do we advance gender equity and equality in the workplace? Dr. Iris Bohnet is the Albert Pratt Professor of Business and Government at the Harvard Kennedy School. She’s also Co-Director of the Women and Public Policy Program. In this episode, we spoke with her about: The long standing bia…
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Dr. Beth Fisher-Yoshida on Why Power, Negotiation, and Conflict Resolution Matter
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Why are the words conflict and negotiation intimidating? How can we take the fear out of these subjects and improve our comfortability with them? Why is proficiency in negotiation key to a healthy work environment and a great career? Dr. Beth Fisher-Yoshida is Co-Executive Director of the Advanced Consortium on Cooperation, Conflict and Complexity …
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Mary-Frances Winters on Making Space for Conversations at Work
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How can we approach making change at work? Why are tough conversations important? How do we have them while also respecting boundaries? Mary-Frances Winters is founder and CEO of The Winters Group Inc. She’s worked as a consultant improving DEI efforts at numerous corporations. She’s also the author of multiple books including Racial Justice at Wor…
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Behind the Conversations with Carla Harris, Susan McPherson, and Kenji Yoshino
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What can we learn about leadership from Carla Harris? About connection from Susan McPherson? And about Allyship from Kenji Yoshino? In this episode, Dr. Cindy Pace shares more about: Carla’s pearls of wisdom How Susan’s view of connection has helped her build strong relationships What Kenji’s allyship has meant to her At Metlife, we are committed t…
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Kenji Yoshino on Being an Ally
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What is an ally and why should you be one? Why is a growth mindset a vital part of being an ally? How do we learn from a mistake or a non-inclusive action? Kenji Yoshino is the Chief Justice Earl Warren Professor of Constitutional Law at NYU and the director of the Meltzer Center for Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging. He is also the author of two…
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Susan McPherson on Making True Connections at Work
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Why are deep and lasting relationships important? How do we build them? What is the difference between networking and connecting? Susan McPherson is the founder and CEO of McPherson Strategies. She calls herself a serial connector and wrote the book, The Lost Art of Connecting: The Gather, Ask, Do Method for Building Meaningful Relationships. In th…
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Carla Harris on The Future of Leadership
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How can we adapt to new challenges and expectations as new employees join our workforce? What does it mean to find and cultivate talent? How does a good leader help their staff grow and thrive? Carla Harris is a Senior Client Advisor at Morgan Stanley and a member of Metlife’s Board of Directors. She’s written several books. The most recent was tit…
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Why is Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion pivotal to a healthy work environment? How can you take action on DEI? How can you have conversations that matter? The goal of our show, is to examine the pivotal role that YOU can play in advancing DEI. In our second season, we’re bringing you twice as many stories and research driven conversations. On the s…
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Frans Johansson on The Great Recombination Era: Power of Diverse Teams
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How can diversity drive innovation and inspire solutions? How can leaders unlock all of the innovation potential of their diverse teams? Frans Johansson is an entrepreneur, best-selling author, acclaimed international speaker, and leading thinker on the intersection of diversity and innovation. In this episode, we spoke with him about: How DEI unea…
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Call to Action: Jumpstarting your 2023 with Inclusion Resolutions
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In this episode, we kick off the year with calls to action from all of our season 1 guests. In January, people tend to make New Year's resolutions and this year we want our listeners to make an inclusion resolution. That word, “resolution” comes from the word resolve, which is defined as a “fierce determination to do something.” As we look ahead in…
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Season 1 Highlights — Inclusion Begins with Me: Conversations That Matter
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This special episode will take you on our own journey of how and why we built our podcast, while also hearing incredibly personal stories and the most powerful insights our guests have shared in 2022. If this is your first time listening to our show, this episode will be an amazing way to get an overview of the conversations we’ve had and the lesso…
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Building Collective Action Through Shared Sisterhood with Dr. Tina Opie and Dr. Beth Livingston
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How can we recognize our similarities and build strong relationships with one another despite our differences? Why is collective action central to advancing the work of DEI? Dr. Tina Opie and Dr. Beth Livingston are the authors of Shared Sisterhood: How to Take Collective Action for Racial and Gender Equity at Work. In this episode, we spoke with t…
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Earned Advantage and Its Impact on DEI with Chris Altizer and Gloria Johnson-Cusack
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What is the difference between earned and unearned advantage? How can DEI practitioners simplify their work? How does advantage affect our workplaces? Why does it have a major impact on DEI work? Chris Altizer and Gloria Johnson-Cusack are the authors of Growing the Elephant: Increasing Earned Advantage for All. In this episode, we spoke with them …
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Wade Davis on Why Discomfort is a Necessary Sacrifice for Inclusion
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Why does inclusion need to be personal? Why is it necessary for DEI work to be uncomfortable? What is the difference between niceness and kindness — and why does language matter to DEI efforts? Wade Davis is currently the Vice President of Inclusion Strategy for Product at Netflix. He’s a thought leader public speaker, and writer on gender, race, a…
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Dr. Britt Andreatta on How We’re Wired to Grow, Connect, and Belong
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What happens to our brain when we experience exclusion? How have pandemic related shifts in our work environments affected our ability to connect? And how do we maintain a clear sense of pride and purpose in our work? Dr. Britt Andreatta is a thought leader, consultant, and author. She synthesizes neuroscience and makes it applicable to the busines…
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Tara Jaye Frank on Why Waymaking is an Equity Imperative
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What is waymaking and can anyone be a waymaker? Is there a difference between waymaking and sponsorship? What makes employees feel respected and appreciated? Tara Jaye Frank’s book, The Waymakers: Clearing the Path to Workplace Equity with Competence and Confidence serves as a guide for tackling these tough questions. Tara started her 20-year caree…
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Aaron Hurst on the Power of Purpose and Connection
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What is the connection between purpose and performance? Amid the Great Resignation, what can workplaces do to meet the demands of today’s workforce? Today’s guest, Aaron Hurst, coined the “purpose economy.” He is the CEO and Founder of Imperative, a peer coaching startup that is helping employees find meaning and purpose in their work. According to…
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Ruchika Tulshyan on Cracking the Code: Belonging at Work
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In building inclusive workplaces where people feel a sense of belonging, why do we need to center women of color? In doing this work, how do we choose courage, vulnerability, and empathy, even when it’s difficult? To explore these topics, we’ll be hearing from Ruchika Tulshyan, author, global keynote speaker, and founder of Candour, an inclusion st…
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Deepa Purushothaman on the Cost of Power and Success in Corporate America
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What is the true cost of women’s success in corporate America? How are women navigating the climb to reach the coveted seat of leadership? Deepa Purushothaman, a “first” senior partner at Deloitte, the first Indian-American woman, and one of the youngest people to make Partner in the firm's history, knows first-hand what price ethnically and racial…
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Daisy Auger-Dominguez on the Inclusion Revolution
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When it comes to inclusion, Daisy Auger-Dominguez, Chief People Officer at VICE Media, asks us to: “reflect, visualize, act, and persist.” Throughout her career, Daisy has made transformational contributions to leading companies in media, entertainment, and technology. In this episode, Daisy shares how she discovered the unwritten rules in work env…
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