With the Pitch & Sync Studio as our base camp, we explore all things audio – uncovering the many mysteries of music, music-making and the music biz. We speak to artists, directors, composers, producers, music supervisors, foley artists, managers and mates, even scientists and researchers – anyone with insight into the many ways that music weaves its spell.
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In this weekly podcast, composer, producer, and educator Eric Copeland of Make Music Income talks about his continuing journey to Make Music Income with Sync Licensing, Stock Music Licensing, Artist Income, Online Channel Income, Music Publishing, Music Teaching, and Music Production for clients. Co-host Steven Beddall of the Production Music Academy also joins Eric in many episodes, as well as Dave Kropf and many others. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/makemusi ...
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Two friends, one podcast, all Music - Culture - Interviews - DC, MD, VA based no state left behind🫡 @bemobrown + @reupalex - NEW EPISODES EVERY OTHER THURSDAY!
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Hosted by Webby Honoree audio producer and music journalist Lennon Cihak, When Life Hands You Lennons spotlights music industry executives, musicians, and tastemakers. Throughout each episode, Lennon takes a deep dive into the guest's speciality, asking the questions that don't yet have answers. Previous guests include Cascada, Varien, Jason Grishkoff (SubmitHub), Seth Hills, DJ Swivel (Beyoncé, The Chainsmokers), Jody Friedman, ItaloBrothers, 3OH!3, and more. Become a supporter of this podc ...
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EP.16 Sommer Hill Interview: Howard, Journalism, DC culture, Chappell Roan, Tiny Desk, Homecoming, and how to start a podcast
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This week we sat down with Sommer Hill, a DC resident, journalist, Howard Alumni, storyteller, teacher, and fellow podcaster (It’s Sommer Time) to name a few of the impactful accolades that she’s accomplished and continues to build on. We talked about Howard University Homecoming, her journey through the world of professional journalism, how to get…
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EP119. Cassettes & Regrets for Such a Time as This | Plus Some Music Industry News Concerning Identifyy
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Do you ever feel like you just made the wrong decisions in your music life through the years that have left you in a place now where you can’t succeed in music the way you want to?Today, I look back at my old music life, when I was taping and scraping by, and generally not in a successful place and thought I might never get to a place where I am no…
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EP118. Stock, Sync, Spotify, Sheet Music, Content ID? Strategies to Do it All Together!
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Upload Your Music Direct to POND5 and More Non-Exclusive Libraries: https://payhip.com/b/pvsfLGet Your Music to TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming: https://payhip.com/b/KtoqHJust about every week, just about every video I put up, I get the same question in the chat, in the comments, in email…Can I put the songs I have on Pond5, or any other non-exclusive li…
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EP.15: Imani Grace Interview: Jazz, Gospel, Releasing Music, Howard University, HBCU’s, Songwriting, Black Culture, and The Divinity of Music
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This week for Episode 15 we sat down with DC based singer + songwriter Imani Grace. We talked about her background in music and theatre, Imani’s single "King" and how it came together, her time at Howard University and more. Listen to Imani Grace - https://www.imani-grace.com/ - Follow us on Patreon for Exclusive Uncut Full Episodes, access Viewer …
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EP117. Start with Pond5 - Revisited! Pond5 Review and Online Course on Best Practices in 2025!
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Upload Your Music Direct to POND5 and More Non-Exclusive Libraries: https://payhip.com/b/pvsfLGet Your Music to TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming: https://payhip.com/b/KtoqHIn this video, I want to revisit this video I made 3 years ago or so, as well as show you a little from the Stock Market course where I go over Pond5, how to become an author, and then …
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EP116. Pond5 Pays Out BIG With A.I. DataSet Earnings! How Much and Why? Music Income SCIENCE!
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Upload Your Music Direct to Non-Exclusive Libraries: https://payhip.com/b/pvsfLGet Your Music to TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming: https://payhip.com/b/KtoqHI’m not going to bury the lead here: yesterday myself and likely hundreds if not thousands of music creators checked our Pond5 accounts and saw a HUGE deposit called Dataset Earnings.The Make Music In…
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EP.14 Tennishu Interview: Butcher Brown, New Music, Richmond VA, The Music Making Process, and Gentrification
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This week we sat down with Richmond, VA's own Vocalist, Rapper, Multi-Instrumentalist and Producer, Tennishu. Some of you might know him as the lead vocalist and Brass section in Butcher Brown, others might be tuning in off his latest Album "More To The Story". We covered the full story behind Butcher Brown coming together, his musical process, Gen…
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EP115. Networking to Sync and More! With Marcus Manderson | PMC, Music Summit, Sync Pitches
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So how do you Make Music Income?Well, you have to start by making music, and that will be part of today’s video.But you also have to get out there, get in touch with people, and get into things.Today’s guest is Marcus “Da Fingaz” Manderson!Get in touch and Follow him at:LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dafingaz/INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram…
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EP114. Sync & Stock: It's All Music Licensing | Why You Should Do Both in 2024/2025
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So there’s lots of ways you can license your music. On this channel we talk a lot about sync licensing to TV, film, advertising, and gaming, and micro-sync or stock (micro-sync is the cool word for it now wink) for YouTube, presentations and other uses.Now, many people think of being on TV and Film and Ads as more prestigious and bigger money, and …
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EP.13 FULMETALPARKA$ Interview: Anime, Beat Making, Newport News, Ryan Celsius, karrahbooo, Virginia Beach, Pharrell, Timbaland, Fashion, and Creating a sound of your own
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This week we got the chance to sit down with our third guest from the "7 Cities" specifically Newport News in the Virginia Beach area, FULMETALPARKA$. His sound and style of music builds off of his Harlem, New York upbringing and current residence by the beach paired with a love for Anime while not taking from a specific mold or pattern. With colla…
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EP113. $2,000+ in PRO Sync Income...from STOCK?? What the What?
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So with this last BMI check, like we all do, I was hoping for a higher check than the last. You know, to show that things are progressing with my sync career.Well, I looked at my business account and lo and behold it was $2600 HIGHER than it should have been.Checking the register I saw not one, but TWO checks for over $1000!What the what?—THE STOCK…
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EP112. A Change in Focus | How to Solve Music Life Problems
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Almost everyone has some really good things going on. Sometimes TOO MANY good things. And it's easy to get lost in that. I've experienced this myself lately…and here's what I've had to do about it.Need someone to talk to about this? Email me at eric@makemusicincome.com-- ONE-ON-ONE COACHING FOR COMPOSERS AND PRODUCERS:Eric has been helping artists …
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EP.12 Corey Fonville Interview: Butcher Brown, Jazz, Drummers and Their Part of The Music Process, Growing Up In Virginia Beach, How To Make It As A Musician, New Music, and Where Jazz Music is Heading ...
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This week we sat down with Corey Fonville, a Virginia Beach born multi-instrumentalist whose strongest skills are within the world of Drums. He’s the heartbeat and rhythm of Butcher Brown but what really defines him is the theory and cadence behind the work he’s done to become an established drummer. We got the chance to dive deep into his producti…
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EP.11 Eyezic Interview: Future Bass, UKG, Garage, House Music, Beat Production, Diversity, How To Pitch To Labels, Meeting San Holo, and Ethereal Dance Music
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This week we brought in Eyezic, a DC, MD, VA based Electronic DJ and Producer who creates music within a few different genres including his own "Ethereal Dance Music". We talked about UKG, Future Bass, House Music, favorite performances, influences, growing up in Northern VA, how to pitch to labels, Diversity, Peruvian influence, and the definition…
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EP.10 Kaelin Ellis Interview: New Music, You Are Here Start, AI, Sampling, Beat making, Florida Music Scene, and Sync Licensing
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This week we had a special out of state guest, Florida born, multi instrumentalist and producer, Kaelin Ellis. He just released his latest studio album “You Are Here, Start” fresh off his tour supporting the album. We sat down and talked about how the album and some of the features like Kenny Mason and Guapdad 4000 came together, his thoughts on Ai…
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EP111. Getting Music Placements with Michèle Vice-Maslin | LA Veteran Sync Producer, Songwriter
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In this video we speak with Michèle Vice-Maslin, a longtime veteran in the LA Sync Industry or as she calls it "Music Placements." She is an Emmy Winning, #1 hit music producer/Music Arranger/Songwriter, Music Publisher who composes (both music & lyrics) and produces-arrangers for artists/films/television/ads/ promos/ games, etc. She has had numero…
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EP.9 SIR E.U Interview: The Ghost of Velvet, Go-Go, Beats, Washington DC Culture, Inspiration, Pop Culture, Hyperpop, and Underground Music
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This week we got the chance to sit down with SIR E.U, a boundary pushing lyricist based in Washington D.C. who creates music spanning across a wide range of sounds, genres, and styles under the umbrella of rap music but the end product is so much more. SIR E.U comes from the developing 2000's era that we like to call the "2012 era" but the date ran…
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EP110. 🤖 Why I'm Letting AI Train Off My Stock Music (Let's Relax About This...)
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You know lately I have given some real thought to the “will I let AI train off my music”, and we’re all being very careful and NOT signing the Motion Array or Envato terms. Not letting AudioSparx or anybody train off our precious music that is so original that no one (or thing) in the world could have thought of it.The truth is, I think we are bein…
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EP.8 yvngxchris Interview: Everybody Hates Chris 2, Car Meets, Inspiration, Tik Tok, Touring, Rolling Loud, Pusha T, Something In The Water, and Fashion
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ReUpAlex + BeMo Brown sat down with Virginia’s own new school rapper yvngxchris, our first guest from the 7 cities (Norfolk, Portsmouth, Newport News, Chesapeake, Hampton, Virginia Beach, and Suffolk). We covered his newest studio album “Everybody Hates Chris 2” and how it came together, growing up by the beach, Pharrell and his festival Something …
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EP 109. From $$ to $$$$ in Sync PRO with "Da Fingaz" Marcus Manderson | How He Did It!
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In this podcast we talk with Marcus "Da Fingaz" Manderson and talk about how he went from never making over $100 ever on a PRO check to making HIGH FOUR Figures in his last BMI Check.I ask all the questions, and he details what happened and his strategy and how he finds time to make music for sync.#synclicensing #composer #musician @dafingaz LINKS …
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Ep.7 Darrin X Talks Go-Go, Washington DC, the history of Go-Go, and the future of the genre
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This week we sat down with Darrin X to talk about the history, culture, and musical structure that follows Go-Go Music, a Genre that was created in Washington DC. Darrin X breaks down the eras that built Go-Go Music from the 70’s to now along with a detailed view of where Go-Go Music is going. - Check out Go-Go Royalty to listen and find new and cl…
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EP 108. Is Stock Music/MicroSync Worth It in 2024?? Or Fruitless? Let’s look at some data…
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Almost three years ago my channel blew up with a video called “Zero to $600 a Month with Stock Music Licensing.” Surely this is all over now right? No one can be making any money on this now with the advent of AI can they? Sync is the ONLY way to go to make money in licensing right?Well, let’s look at the data…#stockmusiclicensing #musiclicensing #…
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EP.6 Season 1 Finale: The People’s Episode (Live Studio Audience)
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Bryant “BeMo” Brown and ReUpAlex sat down with Malik Dope, Tenacious, Chad “Focus” Arrington, Togeki, Shreztah, and MartyHeemCherry for the Season 1 Finale of The-Re-Up Podcast featuring viewer-submitted interview guests from Washington DC and Maryland. Topics ranged from Hyper Pop, Go-Go, Dubstep, Vice, DC Culture, America’s Got Talent, and more. …
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EP 107. How to Find and Contact Sync Music Libraries | Clips from the "Getting in Sync Course"
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Eric shows clips from his “Getting in Sync” Course and talks about the EXACT way he got into his first two libraries.GET THE 2024 MUSIC DIRECTORY FROM SYNCMYMUSIC:https://www.syncmymusic.com/musicdirectoryMake sure to email Jesse after you buy and tell him Eric Copeland sent you! --THE NEW COURSE "GETTING IN SYNC" IS HERE!How I Got My Music on TV! …
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EP 106. i'm changing things...(again)
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I’m going to have to change thigns up to make my life and music work the way I need it to. Come listen and see if it helps you too. -- THE NEW COURSE "GETTING IN SYNC" IS HERE!How I Got My Music on TV! (And How YOU Can Too!)Once I found out about sync licensing and that people were making music income, I began a systematic, focused plan to get my m…
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EP 105. 🎹 🖥️ What DAW Should I Switch To? Which One Would YOU Pick? Replacing Logic Pro AI 🤖
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What DAW (or Digital Audio Workstation) would you choose if you had to switch DAWS?Not what DAW is BEST! What would your transition be? From Logic to Studio One? From FL to Logic? From Ableton to Pro Tools? (That would be weird) --THE NEW COURSE "GETTING IN SYNC" IS HERE!How I Got My Music on TV! (And How YOU Can Too!)Once I found out about sync li…
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EP.5 Dieglo talks Art, Painting, Art Basel, Creative Collaborations, Flowstate, Chris Pyrate, Washington DC, Travel, and How To Make It As A Visual Artist
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We sat down with Rockville, MD’s own local Artist Dieglo and creator of our studio's mural to chat about mixed media art, the DMV (DC, MD, VA), growing up as an artist, making it as an artist, traveling to Peru and Japan to make art, and Dieglo’s Creative Process, Art Basel, and Dieglo's PBR (Pabst Blue Ribbon) Collaboration. - Join our Patreon for…
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EP104. 💰 How Much Netflix Paid Me | May Showers Royalties | Logic Pro 11
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In this week’s podcast I talk about how much Netflix paid out for a top of show, logo placement on the hit show Love Is Blind. Also other surprisingly good royalty reports, and...we need to talk about Logic Pro 11.--THE NEW COURSE "GETTING IN SYNC" IS HERE!How I Got My Music on TV! (And How YOU Can Too!)Once I found out about sync licensing and tha…
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EP.4 DJ Harrison Talks Jazz, Butcher Brown, Richmond VA, Music Production, Analog Recording, Cassettes, VCU, Grammys, Genres, and the Creative Process
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We sat down with Richmond Virginia's own DJ Harrison to chat about his creative process, journeys through Richmond and beyond that music has brought him, cassettes and analog recording, and his time on NPR Tiny Desk with Butcher Brown along with his Grammy Nomination. - Join our Patreon for un-cut episodes, free access to our live studio finale par…
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EP103. Video Game Music Licensing with Steven Melin | $80,000 Freelancer Yearly Average?
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In this episode we talk to Steven Melin of Video Game Music Alliance, who composes music exclusively for video games on all levels including independent, Steam, and console gaming.Did you know that the average yearly salary for FREELANCE Video Game Music Composers and Sound Designers is $80,000 per year? (Source: https://www.gamesoundcon.com/post/g…
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EP.3 Ryan Celsius Talks Ai Technology, Grammys, Trappin in Japan, Phonk, Genres, Lofi Vintage Culture, Music Production, Music Distribution, and How To Make It As A Musician
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We sat down with music producer and visual artist Ryan Celsius to dig into his ground paving mixes under the Trappin In Japan visual youtube mix, Phonk, ai technology, The Washington DC Metro Area, his Label, and the End of Underground tour along with how he got to where he’s at today as one of the driving factors behind the PHONK movement. - Join …
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EP102. Surprising First Quarter Stock Numbers | BMI New Site | Deposit Photos
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In Podcast 102 Eric talks about a surprising thing he is seeing in his stock music licensing numbers for 2024, BMI’s new websiute and app, and a slight but welcome change at Deposit Photos.LINKS DISCUSSED:MY TEACHING PRODUCTS: https://makemusicincome.com/learn/BMI: https://www.bmi.com/Find our more about The Ultimate Composers Mastermind! - https:/…
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EP.2 Dreamcastmoe talks DC, Boiler Room, SXSW, NFT’s, and making it as an artist with Phlote
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We sat down with Washington DC’s own Dreamcastmoe for some in depth stories following his place in the music scene, touring, a look into the inner workings of the music industry, and how to make it as an up and coming artist with his label Phlote, spearheaded by Dreamcastmoe and AJ. - Join our Patreon for un-cut episodes, free access to our live st…
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EP101. Your Music vs. A.I. | What Can You Do? | Ideas to Help You Compete in the New World of Music and AI
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Today I try and bring you some solace and relief to that sinking feeling that AI is going to replace or displace you in the world of music.We talk about why to stop listening to the media and doomsayers, how AI can actually help us in our music, why Stock music is certainly the low hanging fruit, why Sync may not be as affected, what I am doing to …
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EP100. Changes...with Stevie B | Composing, YouTube, Stock/AI, Sync
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It's our 100th podcast episode, we are joined by Stevie B after an April Fools fake out!Change has to come and we explain these and other changes that are affecting what we do to make music and make music income.#musicproducer #composer #musician HEY PODCAST AUDIENCE!I'd love your thoughts about The Make Music Income Podcast. It's hard to know what…
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EP99. Music Income in the Church ⛪ | With Music Director Shane Jensen | Singer, Musician, Sound Jobs
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You might be aware of music in the church, but did you know that there are solid jobs from full-time music director positions with benefits, to part-time paid players, singers, and sound engineers that are needed?In this deep diving interview, I talk with Shane Jensen who works as a Music Director for a 500 member church in the Las Vegas area. We t…
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EP98. A Different Way of Creating...Being in The Flow | News AI Does Dishes | 500 Songs Update
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What if we said no to the pressure? What if we just completely surrendered to the creative flow?Could it work? Could this be the true way to beat AI, to create more?Let’s talk it through…. Soundtrack for this episode: Landscape of a Dream by John Eric Copeland. https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/fromthemomentmusic/moving-forward --Introducing STREAM…
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EP.1 Amal (Black Rave Culture) Talks Boiler Room, UK, Electronic Music
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BeMo + ReUpAlex take a deep dive into the roots of Electronic Music, House, Techno, and Garage with Amal from Black Rave Culture (James Bangura, Nativesun, Amal). Fresh off of his Boiler Room performance in DC, Amal breaks down what it took to get to where he is today. Join our Patreon for un-cut episodes, free access to our live studio finale part…
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Special Episode: Monetizing Your Music with the META Ads and Brand Strategies of Tom Dupree III | Facebook, Instagram, Spotify (Uncut Conversation)
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In this deep interview with working musician and marketing expert Tom Dupree III, we dive into his recent changes towards his content, including how he now teaches about Facebook and Instagram Ads, Spotify Marquee and Showcase, Making PROFIT with Spotify and Streaming, Short Form Video Marketing, and Making Music with Brands.#facebookads #meta #…
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Special Episode. The Real Truth About SONGTRUST | What They Do & Don’t Do | Find More Music Royalties
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I have been waiting what seems like forever to get some real information about Songtrust, a publishing administration company that I have heard a lot about, but most of what heard seemed like misinformation.Well, in this video we go directly to the source and speak to the Associate Director of Marketing for Songtrust, Renée Buchholtz. Not only do w…
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EP97. Composer, Organist, and Synthesist, Jameson Nathan Jones
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What do you do when you are taught formally, play the organ at church, compose music. AND love synthesizers? Well, for Jameson Nathan Jones, you end up with a YouTube channel talking about it.And he’s kind of hilarious!Education is a sticky subject for some, maybe you. But in this interview we delve into how education helped Nathan become…Nathan, A…
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EP96. The Yay, The Nay, and the...Meh of Music Licensing & Music Income | Netflix, NFL, BMI, Identifyy
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In music income, there’s good and there’s bad and there’s just stuff in between. Today I will share some nice wins, some poor results, and some stuff that’s just…the same. Plus how NOT to get lost in all the minutiae of music life.See the Netflix "Love is Blind" placement of "The Rest of My Life" here: !https://youtu.be/2kY5llWDitE?si=_lrbnQQ-INNrN…
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Special Episode: Talking Music Libraries with Art Munson ofMusicLibraryReport.com | Music Licensing
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In this video we talk with Art Munson who developed and runs MusicLibraryReport.com, This is a web site that has been operating for over 15 years gathering and updating information about music libraries. Art has a rich history with music and the beginning of production music in Los Angeles and Nashville.#musiclicensing #musiclibrary #productionmusi…
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EP95. 💔 The Sad State of Creative Content Makers 🎵📷🎥 | The Real Problem
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So right now we are in a “I Quit YouTube” phase with some rather big YouTubers quitting. This is not a video about that per se.I myself have seen and experienced some issues in keeping a music YouTube site going.And you’ll never guess what the biggest problem seems to be with MUSIC and creative YouTubers…Special thanks, best wishes, and watch the c…
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Special Episode: Sync Agent Mark Frieser Explains What a Sync Agent Does & How Sync Licensing REALLY Works
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So, what does a full-time sync agent actually do? What do they look for? Who do they work with?In this revealing video, Mark Frieser of @syncsummit tells it like it is and what he does every day as a sync agent.#syncagent #synclicensing #musiclicensingLINKS IN THIS VIDEO:SYNC SUMMIT: https://syncsummit.com/FREE METADATA STYLE GUIDE: https://sync…
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EP94. My Music Income in 2023 | And How It Affects 2024 | Music Licensing, Publishing, Teaching, & Clients
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You know how I always ask every guest on the show “How do you Make Music income?” Well, in today’s podcast I tell you how I made income last year. In many ways. 2023 was an affirming year and also a directional year for my music.Not to spoil the show, but I probably ended up making about as much in 2023 as I did in 2022. With basically the same job…
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EP93. Music Libraries VS. Direct Sync with Tamara Bubble | Sync Agents, Music Supervisors
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THIS IS THE MAIN EVENT! In this corner…the way most online gurus suggest you license your music for TV and Film…the Master of Passive Placement…the Sometimes Your Song Is Never Heard But You Do It Anyway Because All You Gotta Do is Load It Up and Wait…Music Libraries! (ERIC COPELAND)And in this corner…the way artists and songwriters get their music…
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EP92. My AUDACIOUS Goals in 2024! 🔥 For MUCH More Music and Music Income! 💰
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au·da·cious/ôˈdāSHəs/adjective1. showing a willingness to take surprisingly bold risks.So, it’s going to get REAL in 2024. I’m done fooling around. I’m done with part-timing it. I’m done with being done.Wait until you hear what I will be doing in 2024. It might just blow your mind. 🤯0:00 - Audacious! 6:48 - 500 Songs?? 14:57 - 25 Albums to Sync 25:…
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EP91. Andrew Southworth Talks Music Streaming Marketing Secrets and Success on Spotify, Apple & Pandora
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In today's video we talk with Spotify Marketing guru Andrew Southworth about marketing your music to Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, and more. We go WAY beyond just marketing thoughA GIFT FOR YOU: Take 50% off any level of The Stock Market Course, Where, Why, and How to Submit Your Music to Stock Music Libraries and Other Licensing Sites. Just enter…
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EP90. Make the Music You Love & Make Music Income | Why This is Important for Composers and Producers
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It’s been the tag line of this channel for some time now.Make the music you love, and make music income.Well, I do exactly that and am taking steps to do it even more.And I think you can too. --Introducing STREAMS!Join our new community STREAMS for FREE at https://www.musicincomestreams.com/We bring together composers, producers, artists, beatmaker…
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