Who says you can't change the world? Meet the people who are. Wayne Hsiung, law professor-turned-grassroots animal rights activist and multi-state felony defendant, uncovers the people behind the political, the unexplored personal stories of social change. Intimate interviews with journalists, musicians, filmmakers, community leaders, and others. Change isn't easy. But it must start somewhere. * Blog * Website
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I Didn’t “Steal” Dogs. I Rescued Them. (with Jade Ara) (Ep.71)
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People keep accusing me of stealing animals. I speak to Jade Ara of the Stop Yulin Podcast on why they’re wrong. — Subscribe to Stop Yulin channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@stopyulin8640 Also watch and like the original full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/eRdnHSq597Y Follow Jade: https://www.facebook.com/jade.ara.12 https://www.ins…
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The Single Most Important Lesson for 2025 (Ep. 70)
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It’s very simple: have faith. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-5:36 Intro, on YouTube content and the newsletter on Substack, how to start 2025, & on being criminally changed in 2018 for open rescue Chapter 2) 5…
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Why Angry Men Are Killing From NYC To New Orleans (w/ the Supreme One aka Jeremy Loeb) (Ep.69)
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The real reason men are killing people across the nation. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org! — Follow Jeremy: https://www.youtube.com/@loebjeremy Watch our podcast with Kam Waters: https://youtu.be/S3DXB8AvPMs — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-6:20 In…
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I “Stole” Turkeys From Him. Then He Saved Me. (Ep. 68)
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On the virtues of making friends with your enemies. — Watch “Operation Deathstar”: https://youtu.be/wlSE1X-hSqQ Watch Rick testifying at the Smithfield Rescue Trial“One of the defense’s star witnesses, a turkey farmer who had one of his animals taken by activists, explains to the prosecutor why he supports what they do. He does an impressive job re…
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Debating Sexual Misconduct, “Extremism,” and Purity Politics in Animal Rights (with Vegan Gains) (Ep. 67)
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I confront Vegan Gains on his “problematic” views. It goes ok. Sort of. — Follow Vegan Gains: https://www.patreon.com/vegangains https://www.instagram.com/vegangains.real/ https://www.youtube.com/@VeganGains https://www.facebook.com/VeganGainsOfficial https://www.twitter.com/VeganGains — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's ne…
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Was Jesus An Animal Rights Activist? (with Kam Waters) (Ep.66)
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Opposition to animal sacrifice was central to Jesus’s teachings. That’s the argument documentary maker Kam Waters makes in his provocative documentary Christspiracy. And he has incredible, fascinating evidence to support his thesis. If you have Christian family, or if you’re simply curious about the true origins of Christianity and Christmas, this …
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The Cover-up of Mass Reindeer Slaughter on Christmas (with Rich Hardy) (Ep. 65)
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The bizarre story of the mass reindeer slaughter at Christmas – and what we can do to stop it. — Follow Rich: https://www.instagram.com/notasnatureintended/ https://richcampaigns.myportfolio.com/ — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters:…
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The Real Story Behind Whole Foods’ Efforts to Jail Me (Ep.64)
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Today, we are in court arguing against Whole Foods’ effort to bankrupt me after I exposed their lies about “humane” farms. Here’s the behind the scenes story as to how I ended up in court. #WholeFoods-The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org!-Chapter 1) 0…
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What To Do If You Hate CEOs (with Nathan Robinson) (Ep.63)
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Nathan and I discuss the deep-seated human desire for retribution – and how to harness it for change. — Follow Nathan: https://x.com/NathanJRobinson Follow Current Affairs: https://www.currentaffairs.org https://www.patreon.com/currentaffairs More links below. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more abo…
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What To Do If You Find Out Fauci is Torturing Beagles (with Justin Goodman) (Ep.62)
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Justin Goodman, a Senior Vice President at White Coat Waste, was tarred as a racist & mocked as a conspiracy theorist for questioning Anthony Fauci’s experiments on animals at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, including so-called “gain of function” at a Wuhan virus lab. But four years later, the dust has settled, & he won. We talk about how it h…
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How “Relational Dysfunction” Is Ruining Everything (with Melanie Joy) (Ep.61)
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Melanie Joy is a Harvard-educated psychologist who focuses on how individual mental patterns can cause (or block) social transformation. And she has focused much of her work recently on so-called “relational dysfunction” and “dysregulation” are undermining, not just social movements, but all of human society. We talk about what dysfunction and dysr…
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Horror, Slavery, and the Path to Animal Rights (with Andrew Rakich) (Ep.60)
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What do horror movies, antebellum slavery, and cannibalism have in common? They all connect to the economic conditions required for political transformation — including the struggle for animal rights. This conversation with YouTuber Andrew Rakich (Atun-Shei Films) dives deeply into what we can learn from atrocities (both fictional and real) on how …
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This Pig Farmer Defends Cannibalism. I’m Trying To Make Him My Friend. (with Trent Loos) (Ep.59)
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Trent Loos and I met on the day that I organized a rescue that sent me to jail. And Trent was part of the charge pushing the government to put me in prison. So why am I talking to him during the holiday season about things on which we agree? — Trent on XTwitter: https://x.com/trentloos — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's ne…
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James Aspey Confronts Me on Steroids, the Liberation Pledge, & Veganster Rap (Ep.58)
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James Aspey and I talk about how he gained nearly 50 pounds of muscle while eating mostly Pad Thai, and the merits of taking the Liberation Pledge at Thanksgiving. — Follow James: https://www.youtube.com/@James_Aspey https://www.instagram.com/jimmycashpey/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=706979461 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=615…
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Turkeys, AI, and the Future of Thanksgiving with Peter Singer (Ep.57)
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I speak to renowned philosopher Peter Singer about his new book, Consider the Turkey, and about his new artificial intelligence platform, Peter Singer AI, which allows him to answer an unlimited number of ethical questions without doing any work himself! Peter has some surprising recommendations: including a possible boycott of Thanksgiving! — “Con…
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“Coming Out” for Animals on Thanksgiving (with Mark Westcombe) (Ep.56)
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There’s a tendency for many to avoid conversation, much less confrontation, around the turkeys being served at our Thanksgiving dinner. Mark Westcombe, the director for Animal Think Tank, explains why we should do the opposite: tough personal conversations are crucial to building a mass movement! — Boycott & Anniversary Letter (Liberation Pledge le…
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The ABSURD Hypocrisy on Animal Rights (with David Ramms) (Ep.55)
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Elon Musk defended Peanut the squirrel - but also funds grotesque experiments on monkeys in labs. And Elon is like many people in his bizarre, inconsistent views on animal rights. What explains the hypocrisy? And what can be done to overcome it? — Follow David: https://youtube.com/@davidramms https://patreon.com/davidramms https://www.instagram.com…
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Finding Peace Amidst Atrocities (with Jamie Logan) (Ep.54)
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What happens when a joyous vegan enters the disturbing halls of an industrial factory farm? Jamie Logan is what I’d call a joyous vegan. Her activism is filled with warmth and humor, even as she speaks strongly for animal rights. I had her on the show because of a recent change in her activism: she has started going undercover into factory farms, w…
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The Real Reason Trump Won: Animal Rights? (with Jeremy Beckham) (Ep. 53)
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Pnut, a rescued squirrel seized and killed by the New York State Police, played a shocking last minute role in the election of Donald Trump. What does this mean for the future of animal rights? I discuss with Jeremy Beckham. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www…
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What This Election Means for Animals (with Natalie Fulton) (Ep. 52)
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Numerous pro-animal initiatives lost at the ballot box – in some cases, by huge margins. I break down what happened with Natalie Fulton at Pro-Animal Future, and how the animal rights movement will bounce back. — Follow Pro-Animal Future: https://ProAnimalFuture.org https://www.instagram.com/proanimalfuture/ Follow Natalie: www.youtube.com/@Natalie…
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Debating Vegan Gains on the Importance of Presidential Elections (with Richard Burgess) (Ep. 51)
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“Presidential elections don’t matter.” This is the controversial proposition I take up with Vegan Gains, days before the vote. And we reach some surprising points of agreement by the end of the conversation. — Follow Vegan Gains: https://www.patreon.com/vegangains https://www.instagram.com/vegangains.real/ https://www.youtube.com/@VeganGains https:…
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Traitor Sheep and the Corruption of American Politics (Ep. 50)
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A recent undercover investigation exposed the use of Judas Sheep – adult sheep trained to betray lambs and lead them to slaughter. But the concept of the Judas Sheep has implications far beyond the walls of a slaughterhouse. Indeed, there are Judas Sheep – politicians corruptly acting on behalf of the powerful – leading our entire nation to self-de…
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How Democracy Has Been Taken Over By “High Conflict Personalities” (with Natalie Fulton) (Ep. 49)
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The Democratic Party in Denver has accused animal rights of racism for advocating against the slaughter of animals. Workers of color, they say, will be negatively affected. Natalie Fulton and I discuss how to respond to these allegations - and what this incident shows us about the “high conflict personalities” who have taken over our political syst…
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Beagle Experiments Exposed In Court (Ep. 48)
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Five takeaways from the dramatic evidentiary hearing that happened this week in our attempt to appoint a special prosecutor to charge Ridglan Farms with animal cruelty. - The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! Chapter 1) 00:00-7:07 The First Takeaw…
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How To Stop Trump From Killing Dogs (Ep. 47)
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Trump and Harris both support the mass killing of dogs. But there’s an effective science-based strategy for getting them – and all the other political elites – to change — Sign up to join the Ridglan Case Support chat (& find link to sample social media posts for 10/23): https://www.simpleheart.org/ridglan — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe…
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He Wants To Argue About Gaza. Here’s Why We Shouldn’t. (with Richard Burgess, aka Vegan Gains) (Ep. 46)
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Has Vegan Gains gone intersectional? Richard and I discuss the merits of bringing multiple causes – from #MeToo to #FreePalestine – under the banner of a single social movement. — Follow Vegan Gains Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vegangains.real/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VeganGains Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VeganGainsOfficia…
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Why Is The Democratic Party Defending Animal Torture? (with Aidan Kankyoku) (Ep. 45)
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A ban on animal slaughter is on the ballot in Denver. And the fiercest opposition is coming from… the Democratic Party. — Learn more at https://proanimal.org/ about the Denver ballot initiatives! Denver: Vote Yes on 309: https://proanimal.org/campaigns/denver-slaughterhouse-ban/ Denver: Vote Yes on 308: https://proanimal.org/campaigns/denver-fur-ba…
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Why Animal Abuse is the Greatest Threat to Democracy
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Wandering cows, illegal raids, and threats to democracy that may imperil the future of our nation. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org! Thumbnail photo by Adair Luhr — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00 The greatest threat to democracy is on our dinner pla…
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The Legal System Is Biased Against Vegans. Here’s How We Won Anyways. (with Justin Marceau) (Ep. 43)
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Justin Marceau was lead counsel in the People v. Tracy Murphy. I speak to him about the serious misconduct we revealed in the case – & what it tells us about the broader problem of criminal justice. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Contac…
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She was Charged for Rescuing Two Stray Cows. This is How She Won. (Ep. 42)
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On July 16, 2022, Tracy Murphy saw two young stray cows wandering onto her property, adjacent to a busy road in upstate New York. She gave the cows food, water, and shelter and called the SPCA. What happened in the next few years is so bizarre and outrageous – from police raids to hidden cows sent to slaughter – that it's hard to believe. — Follow …
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He Tried To Put Me In Jail. I Invited Him On The Show.
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As the next big right to rescue trial looms, we're republishing a blast from the past: a debate I had with a pig farmer just months after a mass open rescue at Sunrise Farms. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-03:…
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This Closing Argument Saved Me From Prison. What I Learned Could Save You, Too. (Ep. 40)
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In one week, we face the next huge animal rights trial. Here’s what we can learn from my closing argument in one of the last ones. #SmithfieldFoods #CompassionIsNotACrime — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00 Intro…
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Race, Gender, and Infighting in the Vegan Movement (with David Ramms) (Ep.39)
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David Ramms thinks veganism has an infighting problem. Is he right? And if so, what can be done? — Follow David: YouTube: www.youtube.com/@davidramms Website: https://davidramms.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/davidramms/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/itsdavidramms XTwitter: https://twitter.com/itsdavidramms LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/…
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This Restaurant Banned Vegans. Then Sued Tash for Protesting. (with Tash Peterson) (Ep.38)
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Tash Peterson was recently convicted and forbidden from leaving Western Australia after protesting a restaurant that banned vegans. She was sued for accusing a chef who posed with dead animals of “animal abuse.” And, while pretending to be a farmer, she listened as an angry stranger threatened to kill Tash Peterson – without realizing that the “far…
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They Called Her a Bioterrorist. She Won Them Over, Anyways. (with Leah Garcés) (Ep.37)
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Leah Garcés has convinced numerous factory farms to give up the business of killing animals and transition to plant-based agriculture. And shares the secrets to this remarkable work in this conversation. - More on Leah’s books: “Transfarmation: The Movement to Free Us from Factory Farming”(new release on 9/17/2024): https://www.penguinrandomhouse.c…
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Are People Really “Eating The Pets”? (Ep. 36)
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Trump is right. They’re eating the pets!-Follow Wayne:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WayneHsiung_ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waynehhsiung/ -The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org!-Chapters:Chapter 1) 00:00 Donald Trump’s wild allegation…
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Why Animal Rights is Key to the Presidential Debate (with Jeremy Loeb) (Ep.35)
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The path to victory in the Presidential debate is… animal rights? I break down the opportunities and threats for the candidates – and animal advocates – with former NPR journalist Jeremy Loeb. - Follow Jeremy: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@loebjeremy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/loebjeremy/ XTwitter: https://x.com/LvLouMeng TikTok: http…
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Why Politicians Cover Up Animal Cruelty (Ep. 34)
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There was a bloody ritual unfolding just a few minutes from the DNC… — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-9:00 What was happening while the Democratic National Convention was happening, animal rights issues is bipar…
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The Perils of Victimization Politics (with Jeremy Loeb) (Ep.33)
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Something odd happened in politics – and, increasingly, communities – about 10 years ago: more and more people began claiming “victim” status. Jeremy Loeb and I break down the phenomenon. - Follow Jeremy: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@loebjeremy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/loebjeremy/ XTwitter: https://x.com/LvLouMeng TikTok: https://w…
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He Rescued a Hen Dying in a Manure Pit. They Jailed Him. (with Adam Durand) (Ep. 32)
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Adam Durand was the first activist in US history to be jailed for an open rescue. And his story – including one of the wildest criminal trials in animal rights history – is equal parts inspiring and haunting. — Documentary of Wegmans Egg Farm Investigation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u99T_xb9NTs Article: “Capturing Caged Hens on Video Brings a…
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The Shocking Truth About Kamala Harris and Donald Trump (with Jeremy Beckham) (Ep. 31)
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From deportations to oil profits, the numbers tell a different story than most would expect. What implications does that have for those of us who care about protecting life on earth? — Follow Jeremy & UARC: XTwitter: https://twitter.com/JeremyBeckham IG: https://www.instagram.com/j.s.beckham/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/slcvegan LinkedIn: https://…
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Why Wild Animal Suffering Matters (with Humane Hancock) (Ep. 30)
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Could the greatest moral crisis on Earth today be… the suffering of insects? Jack, aka Humane Hancock, thinks the suffering of wild animals, including insects, matters. And if he’s right, there are remarkable implications. — Follow Jack: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HumaneHancock Website: patreon.com/Humanehancock Instagram: https://www.instag…
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The Best Messaging for Animal Rights (with Tom Harris) (Ep. 29)
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Tom Harris was sent to prison for running a lawful campaign against an animal testing company in the United Kingdom. What can we learn from his experience about why so many, in the government and otherwise, hate activists for animal rights? - More information: Website: https://shacjustice.com/ Tom’s book: “Your Neighbour Kills Puppies: Inside the A…
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Can We Defend a System Built on Lies? (with Jeremy Loeb) (Ep.28)
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Jeremy Loeb and I discuss the ethics of lying. From factory farms that create false ads, to politicians who deceive the public, manipulation is everywhere. Can that ever be justified? - Follow Jeremy: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@loebjeremy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/loebjeremy/ XTwitter: https://x.com/LvLouMeng TikTok: https://www.t…
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How He Cured the Worst Suffering He Ever Experienced (with James Aspey) (Ep.27)
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James Aspey has been experiencing unbearable pain, related to serious injuries he’s suffered for over a decade. But he found a miraculous cure: getting off social media. This conversation went in an unexpected direction. I wanted to have James on to discuss double standards in politics. Why are we so open to politicians ignoring the moral calamity …
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The (Failed) Effort to Crush the Animal Rights Movement (with Ben Newman) (Ep. 26)
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Ben Newman is the first activist in Animal Rising to serve jail time for his nonviolent activism for animals. And he has tips for all of us on how to stay calm and positive, even in hard times . - Follow Animal Rising- Website: https://www.animalrising.org/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/animal.rising/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Animal.Rising…
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The Case Against Consumer Change (with Natalie Fulton) (Ep. 25)
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Should vegans stop calling ourselves vegan? Natalie Fulton makes the case in this conversation. Natalie is a YouTuber and the social media lead for Pro-Animal Future, which focuses on using systemic change to end the exploitation of animals. - Follow Pro-Animal Future: Website: https://ProAnimalFuture.org Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/proani…
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He’s Trying To Ban Factory Farms. He Might Succeed. (with Curtis Vollmar) (Ep. 24)
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A historic ban on factory farms is on the ballot in the heart of Big Ag this November – and early polling suggests it has a chance at victory. I speak to Curtis Vollmar, the President of Compassionate Bay, who breaks down the wild developments in Sonoma County. - Follow Curtis Vollmar:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtis_v0llmar/ Facebook: h…
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How to be Shy AND Bold (with Jack Higgs) (Episode 23)
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Imagine being shy and putting yourself in positions where people will scream at you, attack you, and literally bring out a whip to lash you and your friends. That’s Jack Higgs. Jack is an influencer, animal rights activist, and long-time companion to Tash Peterson. And he’s got fascinating lessons in courage, disruption, and how to create change. -…
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The Source of Moral Truth (with Peter Singer) (Episode 22)
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Episode 22: Reason is the source of moral truth. There are few people on this planet who have done more to defend that proposition than Peter Singer. And I was honored to sit down with Peter, nearly 50 years after the publication of Animal Liberation, to see what he’s learned about the journey to a reason-based system of ethics. Substack: https://b…
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