22. our flag means death & ao3 shipping wars (w/amanda & amber)
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WE TALK IT THREW AS A CREW. we’re talking our flag means death s2 e1-3, how we process emotions through high concept worlds and characters, the archive of our own (ao3) shipping bracket drama, & boundaries with media consumption. 🏴☠️💜
*OFMD S2 SPOILER CENTRAL* 16:38 & beyond (+trigger warning: character suicidal ideation)
HOSTS: Amanda (@amandalaynemiller) + Amber Miller (@amberlmiller)
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 intro
- who’s amanda and who’s amber
- skye sweetnam
4:37 OUR FLAG MEANS DEATH IS BACK
6:41 amber JUST watched ofmd
9:30 atla is also a slow burn
9:47 amber is in pain abt blackbeard
he’s the kraken
10:44 misunderstood characters & being unable to express your emotions in a healthy way
- no one will ever understand me
- stubbornly sitting in my sadness
- being a menace is ed’s coping mechanism
14:13 making sense of emotions thru high concept stories/fantasy & sci-fi
16:38 SPOILER CENTRAL/trigger warning: suicidal ideation — FROM THIS POINT ON
18:45 ed doesn’t understand unconditional love
20:00 stede vs. ed’s fantasies
- they love each other for who they are 😭
21:52 our reactions to lucius and black pete’s reunion!!!!!
23:37 ao3 shipping bracket breakdown
24:30 ed/stede vs. steve/bucky DRAMA
- FRAUD!!!!
- fandom history!!!!??!!
- canon ships are weaker than headcanon ships!!!
26:03 amanda reads out dramatic screenshots
27:41 AMANDA RANTS @ steve/bucky and ten/rose shippers (she’s one of them)
30:00 ofmd and good omens resparked fandom
31:00 there’s annoying fans in EVERY fandom
32:20 shipping is not that serious
- edward vs jacob
- don’t judge people based on their ships
- there are extreme cases
33:50 wincest (we haven’t seen supernatural)
34:51 projection on fictional characters has a limit
36:51 is it “cringe” or neurodivergent?
- ofmd using fanfic tropes
- outwardly weird and queer and nd fans
- we can’t hide on tumblr forever
40:11 fix-it fics save the day
41:30 everyone on ofmd is hot as hell in a queer way
44:00 it is WEIRD to be a fan period. stop trying to disassociate from “weird” fans.
47:47 we need queer cultural stepping stones
49:00 “name a hobby outside media consumption”
- nuance
- jocks vs. nerd mentality
53:00 wrap-up
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