#54: Ilan Pappe: Hamas-Israel, Zionism, Antisemitism

For the Sake of Argument

Ilan Pappé is an Israeli historian, political scientist, and former politician. He is a professor with the College of Social Sciences and International Studies at the University of Exeter in the United Kingdom, director of the university's European Centre for Palestine Studies, and co-director of the Exeter Centre for Ethno-Political Studies. Pappé was also a board member of the Israeli political party Hadash, and was a candidate on the party list in the 1996and 1999 Israeli legislative elections. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jakenewfield Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4k9DDGJz02ibpUpervM5EY Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/for-the-sake-of-argument/id1567749546 Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeNewfield Timeline: 00:00 - Introduction 03:08 - What should Israel have done after October 7th? 13:11 - Hamas 15:56 - Buildup to October 7th 21:46 - Is Hamas a terrorist group? 30:00 - Zionism 32:48 - The Solution 34:22 - One State Solution 37:07 - Do the Jews Deserve a State? 39:00 - What would Ilan Pappe's parents do? 41:47 - Do Jews Need Israel? 45:27 - Antisemitism 49:08 - lan Pappe's Life Story 52:43 - Ilan Pappe was detained at a US Airport