#138: Nancy Vinsel - Second Career Public Utilities Lawyer

How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin

Welcome back to another episode of the How I Lawyer Podcast, where Professor Jonah Perlin interviews lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.

Today's guest is Nancy Vinsel, a retired lawyer who previously served as general counsel at a Kentucky state agency regulating public utilities. Nancy brings a unique perspective as a second-career lawyer who attended law school at age 50 after working as a librarian and paralegal. She's also an avid runner and the mother of previous podcast guest Ashley Herd (Episode 86). Nancy is a proud graduate of Brandeis Law at the University of Louisville.

In this episode, Nancy shares valuable insights about the legal profession including:

👥📚 How informational interviews with practicing attorneys helped shape her decision to first become a paralegal before pursuing law school [2:16]

🎓💪 How her family's support, especially her husband's willingness to handle daily responsibilities, enabled her to focus entirely on law school [3:53]

🤝📖 How her approach to law school emphasized collaboration over competition, setting a positive tone for fellow students [5:52]

🎯💼 How she strategically pursued her legal career path by identifying an agency that matched her interests in civil matters and statutory interpretation [11:51]

📊🤝 How utility regulation requires constant learning and collaboration with financial analysts, accountants, and inspectors [14:30]

✍️📋 How writing clear, accessible legal documents for non-lawyer audiences became a crucial part of her role [21:24]

👩‍⚖️🔄 How navigating organizational hierarchy requires a balance of confidence without arrogance [25:10]

🌟👥 How actively seeking mentorship and later becoming a mentor shaped her career development [27:31]

💫📈 How successful mentorship requires vulnerability from mentees and patience from mentors [31:36]

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