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The Money Minister

Catherine Van Der Laan

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God says a lot about money. It's the #1 thing God talks about in the Bible, besides Himself. In The Money Minister, Catherine Van Der Laan discusses topics Christians bring up about money. We'll dive into scripture, experiences, stories, prayer, and friendship as we talk through important issues that Jesus' followers face daily around money. Join me in the podcast or email topics and questions at catherine.vanderlaan@saverstreet.com. We're here to help you!
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Management Material

Catherine Van Der Laan

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Welcome to Management Material. My name is Catherine Van Der Laan. I started my career at the bottom as an assistant and worked my way up to become the boss’s boss in 8 years. If there’s anything I’ve learned, it’s that what got you to where you are now won’t get you to where you want to be. This podcast is for top performers who want to be amazing managers. I’ve coached lots of talented people to get them from entry-level to recognized top performers to new managers to seasoned executives. ...
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Send us a text We're starting a 7-part series entitled "Get a New Full-Time Job." This series mimics the more in-depth group program called "Get a New Full-Time Job." You can find out more about the group program here: https://www.saverstreet.com/service-page/find-a-new-ft-job-group-coaching-session Class 1: Find Your Full-Time Fit Class 2: Create …
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Send us a text Welcome back to the Money Minister, the podcast where we deal with Christian questions about money and following Jesus, relying on the Bible and the Holy Spirit for insight into our lives. Today, we’re talking about an intense topic that I work through with people pretty often. When I’m working with Christians, whether they make $200…
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Send us a text In this episode, we discuss the tension between being told we have to tithe and being told we should be cheerful givers. We dive into scripture in 2 Corinthians 9:6-15 to listen to what God said through Paul to the Corinthian church in his third letter to them. There's a lost letter, so 2 Corinthians is largely believed to be Paul's …
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Send us a text "People don't leave jobs; they leave managers." - a common managerial proverb Getting the title of "manager" doesn't automatically qualify you as a leader. Most managers (at least 58%, according to one study) are so bad at leadership that their employees call them "toxic" and leave. If that doesn't sound an alarm for you, I don't kno…
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Send us a text Ever wondered how to piece back together the fragile puzzle of trust once it's fallen apart? That's what we conquer on today's Management Material, as I share the transformative journey of a leadership development client navigating the treacherous waters of office politics and slander. You'll be privy to our intense discussions on ac…
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Send us a text In this episode, we cover the fine-tuned art of giving feedback so it's received well. It's not easy to give feedback. Most of us have had at least one experience with giving feedback and seeing it blow up in our faces. If you like to avoid conflict, like me, it might seem like giving feedback to a colleague is a lose-lose situation.…
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Send us a text I'm going to get in trouble for this one. I'm sure of it. Are financial roles within a Christian marriage preordained by scripture, or is there more to the story? What does the Bible say? Let's shatter some long-held misconceptions together as we explore the intersection of faith and finances on the Money Minister podcast. Your host,…
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Send us a text Unlock the secrets to revitalizing your team's passion and productivity with me, Catherine Van Der Laan, as we navigate the storm of today's workplace challenges. In this episode, I share my personal journey and the strategies that have transformed teams facing the threat of financial instability and job insecurity. You'll learn abou…
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Send us a text There's a right way and a wrong way to lead after a layoff. When RIFs shatter company morale and rewrite the organizational chart, people can do really weird and stupid things. Let's talk through what it means to be a leader after layoffs affect your colleagues emotionally. My journey through the aftermath of downsizing has taught me…
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Send us a text If you've been through a RIF or know someone who has, this episode is here to help you get back on your feet. I'm sharing a six-step lifeline for anyone treading in these choppy waters—all to help you find a new job, position yourself well, and reach out when you need help. Transforming a setback into a setup for a greater comeback, …
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Send us a text Can you still give to others even when you're drowning in debt? In this touching episode, we share the story of a woman who found herself struggling with debt and job prospects. Through our coaching sessions, we embarked on a journey to explore the heart of giving for Christians, using the widow's offering in the Bible as a model for…
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Send us a text Ever felt overwhelmed or unequipped to share your faith with your colleagues at work? Fear not! We're here to guide you through the challenging topic of being a Christian in a secular workplace, and leading others to Christ without getting fired. As your hosts, Catherine Van Der Laan and Erica Fluckus, we're on a mission to empower C…
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Send us a text Do you ever struggle with asking for a raise, especially as a Christian? You're not alone! We're diving into the challenges Christians face when advocating for themselves in the workplace and how the story of Joseph demonstrates that faith, integrity, and work ethic can lead to success. Prepare to be inspired by Joseph's steadfast co…
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Send us a text Is it wrong for a Christian to be rich? This thought-provoking question drives our conversation in this episode as we, Catherine Van Der Laan and Erica Fluckus, explore the two opposing opinions held within the church. We discuss how God talks about money in the Bible and share the inspiring story of one of Catherine's multimillionai…
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Send us a text Have you ever wondered how to manage your finances in a way that aligns with your Christian faith? Join us, Catherine Van Der Laan and Erica Fluckus, as we share life-changing insights on money management and giving from a Christian perspective. We'll explore how following God's plan for our finances can lead to a more fulfilling and…
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Send us a text Are you aligned with God's plan for your finances? Join Erica Fluckus and Catherine Van Der Laan as we unpack the importance of understanding God's intentions for our money and share our personal experiences of divine guidance in our financial choices. Discover the life-changing story of Joseph, who, despite being thrown into circums…
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Send us a text Are you struggling to reconcile your relationship with money and your faith? You're not alone. In today's episode, Erica Fluckus, a life coach, career coach, and coordinator with a nonprofit, as well as a dedicated Christian and seminary graduate, and Catherine Van Der Laan, financial coach and minister-in-training, talk through what…
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Send us a text You are perfectly positioned to lead someone to Jesus. God's working already. He's wooing your coworkers. He's trying to reconcile every single person to Himself. One of the TOP questions I hear from Christians is, "HOW do I witness in the workplace without getting fired?" Listen to this episode to find out how. Book a free coaching …
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Send us a text Today’s topic is about real leadership that inspires people but is super hard on the manager. Taking the blame and lending the credit is a tough thing. That means taking the fall when a project doesn’t go well or your team doesn’t make its numbers AND talking your team up, giving the right person credit when your team does super well…
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Send us a text How do you ask for a promotion and a raise as a Christian? This is what I do. I help people get better jobs, raises, and promotions and I work primarily with Christians. Christians CAN ask for what they're worth. You can be humble and ask for a raise. You can be a giver, like Christ, and know your worth. You can advocate for yourself…
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Send us a text This topic came up because a career coaching client of mine got a new job recently as a manager. She has a team of people that she inherited from the company. That means that she didn’t get to hire her own people; they were a team the company gave her to lead. Now, she’s having some trouble with respect on her team. Some of her direc…
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Send us a text If you're on your way to being known as the next up-and-coming manager or management material, you might have some haters. The world is full of people who want to get credit and don't want to put in the effort. You'll probably find some of those on your way to a senior management or senior leadership position. Let's talk through how …
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Send us a text I’ve met a lot of Christians over the years. My husband’s a Chi Alpha Campus Missionary, so we travel around to different churches, speaking and praying and helping Christians and pre-Christians wherever we go. I’ve also been weirdly interested in money and everyone’s relationship with money for decades. Yeah, I’m really fun at parti…
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Send us a text OOPS! The right file is now uploaded. Sorry, everyone! I uploaded the next episode for my other podcast, The Money Minister, but now the right episode for Management Material is up. ___________________________________________________ Let’s talk about how to get promoted. Yes, I know we’re in a down market. When there’s a down market,…
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Send us a text Welcome back to The Money Minister. We're starting a new season to talk through things many Christians face when working through money decisions. This episode is about goal setting, serving God, and asking God to set your goals. That's a hard topic for anyone! How do we let God set our goals, especially our money goals? How do you ma…
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Send us a text The economy is in a little bit of trouble. When interest rates go up, businesses that rely on loans have to balance their budgets, so they tend to lay people off. Let’s take this episode to learn how to protect yourself from being laid off. Some signs of a looming layoff include: Heightened or more frequent budget tracking An announc…
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Send us a text A few years ago, I was a defacto leader on a team and I had a boss who was super indecisive. I’m not sure I blamed him, because his boss was indecisive as well and it was a VERY political company. Our guy in charge - our guy in the chief officer position at the time was very much a bully. People would leave meetings with him in TEARS…
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Send us a text Someone recently asked me about being a leader or peer leader for a team that’s half in the office and half working from home. To be clear, he’s not their boss but is a kind of peer leader at work, and he wanted to get better at helping everyone feel included and part of the team. You see, the people working from home didn't feel inc…
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Send us a text At one point in my career, I started giving presentations to senior management - GMs, SVPs, and occasionally our Chief Product Officer. When I first started giving those presentations, I would present my data, decision-making process, and the whole story before getting to the potential options for how we could move forward. These wer…
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Send us a text In today’s scripture, we see three stories: the beginning of Noah’s story, when God was furious with the wickedness of the people of the world. They had a LOT of hardship - lots of work. To remind you, God cursed humanity and caused them to work really, terribly hard for what they needed. We still have to work hard for what we need, …
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Send us a text Joining a new team can feel exciting, terrifying, inspiring, overwhelming, and stressful. Most people will focus on building relationships with their new team members... which can sometimes go wrong. In this podcast episode, we talk about how to get close with your new team members, how it can go wrong, and how it can go well. ______…
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Send us a text A friend of mine came up to me last Sunday at church and asked how I would answer an interview question since I’ve managed larger teams before. He was sitting in an interview for a senior-level position and was asked how he’d manage the team. Nothing more, nothing less. Just, “How would you manage the team?” Well, that’s a curious qu…
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Send us a text Today's reading is Genesis 2:18-4:16, Matthew 2:1-18, and Psalm 2. These readings are remarkably similar. God sees good, loves it, and blesses good. God sees evil, hates it, and rejects evil. We see curses, atrocities, and salvation. But isn't that the whole story of the bible? In Genesis, we’re continuing to see this perfect place G…
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Send us a text Focusing on getting what's fair to you will make you bitter. Bitter people don't get promoted. Bitterness is poison to careers. Bitter people think they deserve more than they get in life. They’re never satisfied with what they have. They’re usually paranoid and think everyone is out to get them. They don’t appreciate the kindness of…
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Send us a text The Money Minister has decided to start a new, long season. We're going through the Bible to see what it says about money! In the next 365 episodes, we'll see what God really says about money. It's the #2 topic in the Bible, just after God himself. He wants you to relate to the world well and the world is run on money. So let's get i…
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Send us a text Guys. Stop stealing from your company. You might think, "I'm not stealing from the company!" Yeah, so did I. Give this a listen. You might just change your mind, change your work life, and change your timeline for becoming a manager. If you have any feedback, send me an email at catherine.vanderlaan@saverstreet.com. I'd love to hear …
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Send us a text God gives us money for two reasons: To take care of ourselves and our families To take care of others That might sound simple, but it's not always understood. Taking care of yourself and your family means staying out of debt (or getting out of debt), saving for future needs, paying your bills now, including taxes, and not stressing a…
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Send us a text Finding God's plan for your life and your finances isn't easy. You need to grow, listen, pray, pray more, and then take a step in faith. In this episode, I talk through how God showed me my career path, my ministry path, and my family's path to make money. God cares deeply about how you relate to money and to your career. He cares be…
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Send us a text Underperformers can plummet a team's enthusiasm and morale. They can kill projects, suck motivation, and make their colleagues look bad. So - if you're trying to become a people manager - what do you do? In this episode, we talk through what to do, how to do it, and why this flow matters: 1. Compensate for their underperformance (sho…
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Send us a text Even the most honest person can work on their integrity. Integrity is more than just telling the truth. Integrity is about doing what you say you'll do when you say you'll do it. Senior leaders only promote leaders they believe have integrity. If you don't have integrity, you will not become a manager. It's the KEY characteristic of …
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Send us a text God's blessings come to those whose hearts are aligned with God's heart. God wants to give you the desires of your heart. He wants to bless you. He wants to provide you with all you need. Most Christians try to make Christianity less of a step-by-step process... but I've always loved processes. Don't worry, this is still somewhat mys…
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Send us a text When you use weak words or you kneecap your sentences, people notice - either subconsciously or consciously - and they treat you as someone who’s not confident and doesn’t deserve to be a people manager. They treat you like someone who isn’t sure, even though you were trying to be polite. They treat you like someone who didn’t do the…
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Send us a text Giving and God’s actual prescription for giving is a hot-button issue for Christians. There’s a lot of back and forth and a LOT of controversy. And that makes a TON of sense to me. Money’s not easy to talk about. We all know that money is emotional by now. Every decision you make with your money needs to feel like the right thing to …
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Send us a text God gives blessings of wealth. He is happy to provide for his children. He also warns us a LOT about money, because having money can draw us away from God. So he warns us to help us put money in its place. We have to wrestle with a tension in our lives: between accepting God's blessing of wealth and not giving in to the temptation of…
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Send us a text I want to talk about something that might spook you: the Finance Department. I know, I know, the Finance Department has a reputation at nearly every company for being full of weird number nerds who like to be direct and tell people what they can and can’t do. They’re a cause of frustration and anxiety, but let me tell you - they’re a…
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Send us a text When I was a junior product manager, just starting out, I had to learn to get consensus on projects before the company would sign off on them and before the team would start working on them. It was a two-stage process: Get sign-off from the higher-ups and get sign-off from the team that would be working on it. Here was the catch: Nob…
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Send us a text Early in my career, I didn't understand that how I learn is not how everyone else learns. This podcast dives into how an amazing (future) manager creates effective training programs for individuals and groups. We talk through four different learning and teaching styles: Teaching with slides (not active), notes, go do it Demonstrate, …
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Send us a text In this episode, we’ll be talking through the situation of close friends or family asking for money. Here’s the common story I hear in January: we’re unsure of our financial future and would love to get out of this debt. It keeps sneaking up on us. I lent money to my brother last month, so hopefully, when he pays me back I’ll get all…
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Send us a text For many, money management is a black and white topic. They focus on just one goal at a time, working as efficiently as possible with the money they have. I've been on both sides of the spectrum: all work and no play to get out of debt and the eventual transition from debt-burdened to debt-free. In this episode, we go through 7 steps…
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Send us a text This episode is about communicating with people who are different from you. We dive into three core motivations: people, goals, and analytics. Then discuss how understanding what motivates others should change how you relate and communicate with them. We also explore two different kinds of reasoning: inductive and deductive. Inductiv…
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