#340 John Cooper (Skillet) - Bucking the Music Industry

Real Talk with Zuby

John Cooper is an American musician, and founding member and frontman of the multi-platinum Christian rock band Skillet. In this exclusive interview in Dubai, John sits down with Zuby to discuss his career, cultural shifts in the USA, and how he manages success. The two explore the value of faith and the post-modern 'woke' peak of 2021. John also shares the tipping point that caused him to speak out, the importance of independent media, and the value of discourse.

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Timestamps:

(00:18) Introduction

(05:01) John’s career longevity

(09:10) Cultural shifts

(16:18) Speed of success

(19:45) Faith & values

(26:50) Post-modernism 2021 peak

(33:52) Cultural tipping points

(38:51) Pushback: emergence of independent media

(42:41) Cowardice

(49:31) The value of discourse

(55:14) Skillet’s new album

(58:39) New age artists/irony of cancel culture

(1:01:44) Optimism in 2024

(1:10:43) Outro

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